Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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I see Dianne Abbott is saying the labour party policy is it will only vote to support the UK staying in the EU single Market. So that implies the labour party will still only supporting freedom of movement .
Brian Dixon
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that's right kieth,the right of free movement is all so in our own magna carta.
Captain Haddock
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Errrr. What 'freedom of movement'?
Arriving at Gatwick I am forced to queue for 20 minutes to show fat Sandra in the polyester Border Farce uniform my passport which allows me to pass 'without let or hindrance'! i.e. Having shown my passport I have now proved that am not someone who needs to show a passport. Doh!
( I am also miffed at having to inform Sandra, in answer to her question 'and where have you just arrived from' it's none of her sodding business though if her Special Branch colleague, hovering in the background, would like to ask me the same question I shall happily reply)
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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dosent apply to all uk persons entering from Europe.but you don't need to show nosey Sandra crossing into Scotland or wales.....
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Brian Dixon wrote:dosent apply to all uk persons entering from Europe.but you don't need to show nosey Sandra crossing into Scotland or wales.....
Same for Channel Islands/Eire etc See Common Travel Area
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Going slightly off subject there is a lot of concern over Ireland and its border with Ulster but I used to travel to Dublin without a passport in the 70s and even travelled to the North by rail and no passport was required there either.
Button
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To summarise posts 205 to 207, UK citizens travelling between the UK and Eire and the Channel Islands do not have to present a passport to immigration authorities (corrections welcome).
Actually I have a niggly feeling that doesn't go for the carriers, who on some routes are obliged to supply API.
Er, of course, when you approach Sandra you are typically amongst travellers who have flown in from other places.
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If we stay in the single market we haven’t left the EU and all the crap that goes with it
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Button wrote:
Actually I have a niggly feeling that doesn't go for the carriers, who on some routes are obliged to supply API.
Carriers are a different matter and can mess me around as much as they like (+ can be leant upon by various 'departments' to take and pass on my details)
e.g. Ryan Air require a Passport to fly UK-Eire, other carriers happy with Driving License.
e.g. DHB can not refuse to transport live exports through port, P&O can and do refuse to carry them.
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Spain gets 1 million rich British with their pensions and we get 4 million gipos
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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we are blessed then kieth,at least they pay there taxes.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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More shots being fired in the phoney war, if there remains free movement for Brits then there has to be the same for everyone else so we are back where we started.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-citizenship-britons-uk-brexit-deal-theresa-may-downing-street-latest-a7469911.htmlhoward mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I trust Mrs May anticipated this and took a flask and sandwiches with her.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38319340Keith Sansum1
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hope she knows what shes doing
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Really though Sue to be honest wouldn't you do the same they have defeated labour heavily twice where labour should do well so they have done well also Scotland(majority)voted to remain
So whilst they will get no where its quite a desperate plight for them
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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I think Scotland only has 5 million people and getting smaller so well over-represented in the bigger EU picture.
About time the English had a vote on Scotland .
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