Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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we never voted for a deal, we voted for independence.
I think the conservative party will haemorrhage votes if independence isn't properly delivered?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Keith Bibby wrote:we never voted for a deal, we voted for independence.
Rather sweeping as we all voted for different things, I doubt many voted for the confused state we are all in at present.
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Jan Higgins
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I think the majority voted for independence from the EU dictatorship that has grown and grown. It allowed in those countries that milked the system that more affluent better run countries had to pay into.
The open boarder policy might be of benefit to trade but also allowed the riff-raff to cross into countries that did not need them or want them. An example being the NHS might have employed some skilled from those countries but at the same time how much has it cost to treat those unskilled, unemployable who immediately became pregnant or were or have become seriously ill.
My analogy would be it is nice seeing your friends but you might not want them living with you for months or even years.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Relax everything is under control.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Seaborne Freight have 7 directors, 4 of which have never been directors before and three are on the board of Albany Shipping ltd which have assets of £.98. 00 and liabilities £.93. 689. 00. make of that what you will.
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
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To be fair to HMG Seaborne get nothing if they fail to deliver a service
To be unfair to HMG it ought to be noted that at least one of the main shareholders is one of the Bamfords, who are major Conservative donors and leading brexiteers - make of this what you will.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The port's executive is one Kevin Root who went to school in Dover - CV below.
General Manager
Company Name
Arriva Southern Counties
Dates Employed
Mar 2016 – Feb 2018
Employment Duration
2 yrs
Location
Maidstone, Kent
Operations Director
Company Name
MyFerryLink (Dover Calais Ferries Limited)
Dates Employed
Aug 2012 – Sep 2015
Employment Duration
3 yrs 2 mos
Location
Dover, Kent
I was approached to lead the formation and development of a new business to conduct commercial operations in the UK, on behalf of MyFerryLink, a Groupe Eurotunnel subsidiary which was launched in Aug 2012. Reporting directly to the France based CEO, I was jointly responsible for defining overall business strategies, targets and policies and accountable for all aspects of corpor... See more
Operations Director
Company Name
SeaFrance Limited
Dates Employed
Nov 2008 – Apr 2012
Employment Duration
3 yrs 6 mos
Location
Dover, Kent
Company Name
SeaFrance Limited
Total Duration
12 yrs 6 mos
Title
Head of Operations
Dates Employed
Jun 1998 – Apr 2008
Employment Duration
9 yrs 11 mos
I was fully accountable for the strategic management and budgetary control of the Operations Department in addition to government liaison issues up to ministerial level. I ensured coordinated ship operations with efficient scheduling while remaining focused on commercial and competitive demand in addition to cost efficiencies.... See more
Title
Port Operations Manager
Dates Employed
Nov 1995 – Nov 1998
Employment Duration
3 yrs 1 mo
UK Terminal Manager
Company Name
Meridian Shipping Limited
Dates Employed
1993 – 1995
Employment Duration
2 yrs
Operations Director
Company Name
Chris Hooper Limited (part of Europa Freight Corporation)
Dates Employed
1984 – 1993
Employment Duration
9 yrs
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Button
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Well, at least Kevin goes back prior to 1.1.1993 (in Folkestone if I recall).
(Not my real name.)
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Part of a press release issued today by Thanet District Council.
"We recognise that Ramsgate could play a role in supporting post-Brexit resilience by offering an alternative route for some cross-Channel traffic, to ensure at least some movement of goods should there be significant delays in Dover. As part of this the council has reviewed the capability of the Port of Ramsgate to provide capacity to support the Brexit position which, with an investment of £26 million, includes the potential for up to 24 sailings a day which would create capacity to divert 3,360 lorry movements per day from Operation Brock from the M20 and M26 significantly reducing pressure from the Port of Dover during peak traffic flows. This would be especially beneficial to the ‘Just in Time’ production processes and logistics for example the chilled food sector."
They have been looking to get a service back up and running since Trans Europa went under but why would they need £26 million if Seaborne Freight take over the running of the service from there and any risk is down to them?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Button- Location: Dover
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An article pretty good on the current facts of life, although with no mention of inland clearance:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46739895ray hutstone likes this
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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There are still people that think he knows what he is talking about.
"The Conservative MP Jacob Rees-Mogg has often quoted a statistic that it takes only six seconds to complete customs checks for goods arriving at the port of Southampton from outside the EU. There is, he has suggested, no reason why ports such as Dover cannot implement similar systems. "
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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# 3114 - I think I detect a note of irony in your remark, Howard. Definitely not salacious gossip. Just a well researched piece of journalism. I'm guessing the answers will be forthcoming when our parliamentarians deign to return to work. Howker's point was the most critical - how can you claim to be addressing an issue of "extreme urgency" with such an incomplete and seemingly unreliable commercial solution.
On a wider issue, I do hope that the likes of MacDonald and Starmer can push Corbyn to one aside on Brexit, however painful he may feel the blow personally.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Too late for that Ray, Jezza will not be moved and research suggests that although the vast majority of members want a second vote they will still support him even if he doesn't.
Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:Relax everything is under control.
I seem to remember the infamous "Gary Gang" making a seamless, frictionless transition through customs. Trotters Independent Traders have more going for them than Seaborne Freight. (Also, they are familiar with the area, being that they are on the record as Margit connoisseurs.)
Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Sludge-gulpers have started at Ramsgate. I have been assured that TDC is NOT paying for the dredging of the channel. One wonders whether part of the £13 million plus we are giving to Seaborne Freight is going on this?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/01/03/dredging-ramsgate-harbour-begins-amid-plans-reopen-ferry-services/"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Behind a paywall Bob but Seaborne have confirmed that they are paying for the dredging.
