ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Jan Higgins wrote:I can't be bothered as whatever I post would be wrong and I find my latest computer game much more stimulating for my seemingly ignorant little grey cells.
On the other hand, you could try coming out with some facts for a change.
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Weird Granny Slater wrote:If we had some bread we could make bread and jam, if we had some jam.
As for Frost, as politicos go, he's a good 'un, and earns multiple
's from me for helping to force the exit from covid insanity.
Why it's probably best to ignore this utter chump.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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ray hutstone wrote:On the other hand, you could try coming out with some facts for a change.
My point has been proved correct so why bother.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Jan Higgins wrote:My point has been proved correct so why bother.
You've got the forum to articulate your proof, Jan. Why not take the opportunity?
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Answered so back to my game or maybe watch The Chase then the News ..........
Jan Higgins wrote:I can't be bothered as whatever I post would be wrong and I find my latest computer game much more stimulating for my seemingly ignorant little grey cells.
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Button- Location: Dover
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Well, a 3rd category of detrimental EU decisions foisted upon us would concern those commodities from outside the EU that attract customs duty (and thence higher prices to consumers) in order to protect EU producers, but where the UK has no producers or none that need protection. Having left the EU customs union, the UK is now able to reduce its duty and thence prices to consumers.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Jan Higgins wrote:Answered so back to my game or maybe watch The Chase then the News ..........
No you didn't. Oh well. Enjoy your game.
Button- Location: Dover
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For Ray: Serbia has the following in common with the UK:
- not in the EU Single Market
- not in the EU Customs Union
- is a Common Transit Contracting Party
- trades with the EU.
Does it have a GVMS? No!
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Indeed. They haven't just left it after 40 years and negotiated a unique TCA!
Never mind. Getting really boring now.
Button- Location: Dover
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ray hutstone wrote:Indeed. They haven't just left it after 40 years and negotiated a unique TCA!
Never mind. Getting really boring now.
Yes, off you pop Ray!
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Looks like the Cornish are the next to understand what the Scots knew from the outset and what the Welsh have now cottoned on to.
Think back to 2016. 'But it's all our money', the Brexiteers proclaimed. We can now control our own spending, they said. Reality was that Cornwall didn’t subsidise the EU. The EU subsidised Cornwall. Now the EU has got *its* money back and Boris Johnson isn’t replacing it.
The facts continue to mount up and the gainsayers bury their heads even deeper.
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Button- Location: Dover
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This bus don't stop Camborne Wednesdays.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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What did he say? Oh, I remember it now. "F**k business", wasn't it? And he was right for once.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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the people who believed all the bullshine that was spouted are to blame.
Button- Location: Dover
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As part of its on-line local section coverage, the BBC quotes Professor Sir John Curtice (Polling expert) as saying that "There are still signs of the legacy of Brexit in tonight's results.
"If we compare them with what happened in the 2016 local elections, shortly before the EU referendum, the Conservative performance is clearly stronger in the most pro-Leave areas - up 8 percentage points - than it is in the most pro-Remain ones - down 9 points.
"Labour's performance is also up compared with where it was in 2016 in pro-Remain areas, but weaker in the most pro-Leave ones."
I guess that means discernible numbers of voters:
a) see Brexit as the most important issue
b) regard Brexit as going well
c) still can't tell the difference between local and general elections.
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Button- Location: Dover
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Oops, or even 'local election coverage'!
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Arthur- Registered: 18 Nov 2020
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I think all the above posts validate my comments on another thread. The Brexit voting system was badly flawed and no one considered the massive fallout from a result that completely divided the nation. Our current PM would have argued for whatever side - he really didn’t care, all he’s ever been interested in is his own ego and ambition.
It’s pointless to keep having this argument- it’s done, the damage is done, I don’t believe the country will ever see significant advantages from leaving the EU. As far as the money is concerned, well just more Boris rhetoric with no substance.
I’ve no doubt that this thread and points scoring will continue but no one will ever concede that Brexit has simply caused a monumental upheaval for no gain either in the short term or probably in the longer term too.
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Arthur wrote:
I’ve no doubt that this thread and points scoring will continue but no one will ever concede that Brexit has simply caused a monumental upheaval for no gain either in the short term or probably in the longer term too.
We all know what happened prior to Brexit what will the outcome be in five or ten years nobody knows at the moment it is pure guesswork.
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victor matcham- Registered: 5 Oct 2021
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Glad we are out of it.
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