howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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So the PM gets a round of applause from the EU negotiators and trade talks don't start until next March. The dosh promised has to be made into a legal document whilst we have to be tied to the European Court of Justice and we have to accept all new EU laws until 2021, yet we are told all is going well.
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Jan Higgins
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The only EU laws that just might be justifiable are those to do with production and EU trade, I can not see any other reason we should follow their sometimes screwball dictates.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Pretty good summing up of the realities of what is to come in the next stage, my prediction is that the Irish border issue will be a major stumbling block.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42367532Guest 2388- Registered: 12 Nov 2017
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Irish border, just build a wall for Christs sake! that will sort the issue out once and for good
Brian Dixon
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yeah and lay sea mines all the way down the irish sea,.dont stop there,all along the channel as far as Newcastle as well.
Button
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Post 1335: and make the Arts Council pay.
(Not my real name.)
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Weird Granny Slater
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I see it now! This negotiation stuff is all obviously a feint. Davis et al are really super-intelligent dudes whose real strategy is to so demoralise the 'Brexiteer' element of the populace that they riot in the street demanding a re-referendum so they can all vote Remain next time round. Then Johnson, Gove and Moggy can all take their places at the table of a new, improved Eurostate. Of course, the only person who's too dim to realise all this is that erstwhile Remainer, the Pry Mincer, who plods on regardless, occasionally whimpering 'victory' when the EU side take a nap.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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All we need to know about a second Referendum which is beginning to look a possibility.
http://www.independent.co.uk/infact/how-would-a-new-eu-referendum-work-a8111946.htmlGuest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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Whilst I am not content with the BREXIT negotiations, I believe that the question for the "second referendum" should be as follows...
DO YOU WANT TO HAVE YOUR VOTES RESPECTED BY OUR ELECTORAL SYSTEM?
YES:
NO:
Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
Captain Haddock
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You Grace,
Grateful if you could actually help me understand what Labour’s position is.
So far I’ve heard Corbyn say they won’t rule out second referendum.
Diane Abbott last month backed second referendum but today rules out second referendum.
Tom Watson today doesn't rule out second referendum.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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It doesn't really matter a great deal what Labour want as they are in opposition and I suspect they are very relieved not to be put in the limelight over the issue. Doesn't help with their grandees Tony Blair and Lord Mantlepiece actively campaigning to stay in.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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still not to late for a U-turn, would benefit the majority if there is another referendum to stay in.under the currant circumstances any way.
Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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Without doubt, BREXIT is the political poison chalice of our era. Capt, this was the 2017 manifesto position:
https://labour.org.uk/manifesto/negotiating-brexit/
It may be true to say that the situation is more fluid than that now. Of course, if you were to ask me about my personal position on BREXIT, I would refer you to the tried and trusted maxim: "
That would be an ecumenical matter."
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Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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The Bishop wrote:I would refer you to the tried and trusted maxim: "That would be an ecumenical matter."
Thinks... Thinks...
https://www.dover.uk.com/forums/dover-forum/dovers-own-brexit-banksy?p=6 (Posts #112 & #114)
No, surely not?
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Everyone has a right to protest peacefully and I can understand why people get a bit emotional on this subject but the leader today claims leaving the EU to be undemocratic so i'm not sure what part of voting she didn't understand. As for the old chestnut about Leave campaigners telling porkies, of course they did but so did the other side equally. In the end it was left to us to go by our gut instincts and views that most of us had held for years.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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it still leaves the question of what was or wrong with the campaign . may some sort of truth in a full version of it so people make a better choise.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
no fish man they are tear drops and they are going to deal next.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
