howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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If the story is true Ray, I would think the QC has looked at the facts and thinks it is a dead cert. Should Charlie go ahead it must signal the end of his political life if only in the short term.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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From the Mail article.
...."Sources said she had withdrawn the accusation after she was given her full entitlement – and the whips had told Mr Elphicke that the party had destroyed the official record of the complaint.".....
If true this whole affair has a nasty smell of deliberate character assassination by certain high up Tories, surely official records would not normally be destroyed so soon.
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Keith Sansum1
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depends on there motives jan
looks like they stitching him up
but hes played the game and come out fighting
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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If Charlie really wanted to play tough, he would side with Tory rebels and Labour over the customs union. That is far more likely to make the party sit up and listen.
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True
Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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Charlie is too aligned to the Tories and can't see himself as anything but a Tory (that is not meant disparagingly). It will take significant 'hurt' for him to rebel against 'his' party, in my opinion.
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Keith Sansum1
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looking at legal action maybe rebel move?
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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I personally think he was targeted for raising the issue of tax evasion by the big companies ?
Keith Sansum1
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probably something in that
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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His latest bit of waffle.
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Campaigning to keep our streets safe and secure
“Dover is a beautiful place, with beautiful people – and I will fight for this town.”
These were the words of Sandra Mahlo at her Cannon Street café La Salle Verte. I had organised a meeting with high street business owners, local councillors and the police. We talked about how we must all work together to look after our town. And it was clear how passionate everyone is about getting the best for Dover.
The meeting was held following a spate of break-ins and burglaries earlier this year. These crimes caused serious concern among local firms. So our police force deserve real praise for swiftly catching the culprits.
Yet there were still worries about the level of police presence in the high street. I contacted our Dover District Commander, Chief Inspector Mark Weller, and he said patrols had been stepped up in Market Square, Cannon Street and Biggin Street.
I was delighted to hear from Sandra and the others at the meeting that they had noticed the boosted police presence in town. People must feel safe when shopping in our high street.
The issue of people consuming alcohol and taking drugs in the town centre was also raised. Ch Insp Weller said the force was cracking down on this through ‘Operation Urban’. He also revealed shoplifting in the high street is down 17 per cent. His team play a vital role. They know their patch inside-out and work closely with business owners and support services.
It’s the nature of their job that sometimes officers will be called to deal with someone who suffers from mental health problems. Kent Police and Crime Commissioner Matthew Scott has shown real leadership in this area. He’s given funding to Talk It Out in Deal and to Dover Outreach Centre. They work with the police to get the most vulnerable people the help they need.
Both in Dover and Deal, the police and shopkeepers are clearly passionate about protecting our high street – and I am determined to help in any way I can. In Parliament, we recently secured more funding for Kent Police – up from £279.3 million to £288 million – which is going towards 200 more officers. We need to see lots of these new recruits deployed in Dover and Deal. I have made that case to Kent’s Chief Constable, who told me he was “confident the increase will be felt tangibly by the residents of Dover district”.
In Deal in particular, people tell me they want more opportunities to speak face-to-face with the police. So I’ve asked the Commissioner to consider doubling the number of hours residents have access to the local force.
We may be living in the age of the internet and social media. Yet for so many people, the heart of our community is the high street. Our local business owners and police force are a huge part of that. We must do everything we can to support them."
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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All they do is talk and talk it is action we need to see stop the talking and get on with the j0b in hand
Captain Haddock
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'Our' Charlie's latest:-
'Brighthouse' named and shamed for ripping people off. The name's a clue. NEVER shop in a place whose name rhymes with the Glaswegian for 'toilet'.

"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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Captain Haddock wrote:'Our' Charlie's latest:-
'Brighthouse' named and shamed for ripping people off. The name's a clue. NEVER shop in a place whose name rhymes with the Glaswegian for 'toilet'.
I think it was Ed Miliband who started that campaign.
Here:
http://www.cityam.com/244716/former-labour-leader-ed-miliband-calls-rent-own-industryGuest 1881 and howard mcsweeney1 like this
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Well said Charlotte #293. I find it rather hard to believe that The Snu are presenting themselves as genuinely concerned about the public and that's THE TRUTH.
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Captain Haddock
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With respect to Ed he did NOT start the ball rolling. The Sun has been actually banging on about it for years, as have a number of MPs including Paul Maynard (Blackpool North and Cleveleys) (Con), whose constituency I visited earlier this year and which is the the second most deprived Conservative constituency in the country.
See debate from 2015:-
https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201516/cmhansrd/cm150714/halltext/150714h0001.htm
I am sure that Charlotte agrees that rent-to-buy at astronomical interest rates should be opposed by politicians of ALL persuasions, though having looked at the FCA regulations on Pay Day Loans will appreciate that legislation is neither a simple matter nor a panacea.
Perhaps we could all do our bit locally by supporting our local Citizens Advice Bureaux who deal with the fallout from such usurious trading and if we have a few spare pounds keeping it in a Credit Union which grant loans at much lower interest rates (I know the rate of return on investment is low but interest rates are stupidly low anyway and hey ho you can't take it with you)
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Jan Higgins
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I do not care who shouted the loudest their side started it, I am just glad something is actually being done at long last.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Latest from our man in Westminster.
It's now three years since Dover's new Buckland Hospital was opened. So it's a good moment to look at how far we've come in delivering a fairer share of healthcare for our area. And the challenges we still face. Things are a far cry from how they used to be back in 2010. We all remember how Buckland Hospital was decimated over a decade. Services were withdrawn and wards axed one by one. While Deal Hospital was left teetering on the edge. Yet after hard-fought community campaigns, we got the new £24 million Dover hospital built – and the future of Deal hospital was secured.
Meanwhile, we've also won the battle for a new £30 million East Kent medical school, meaning more doctors and nurses can be trained locally. Around £200 million is going towards upgrading East Kent's A&E departments. A new £2.3 million GP hub has just opened. Doctors and nurses are working out of ten rooms at both Buckland and Deal hospitals, seven days a week – so more people can be treated locally. Deal Hospital staff numbers are up a fifth. Twice as many clinics are now operating at Buckland than in 2015.
We're getting more healthcare provided locally. Yet I believe we can do more – starting with bringing the vital wet AMD eye treatment to Buckland Hospital. It's not right that elderly people who struggle with their sight are having to make long journeys to Ashford and Canterbury. So I have been pressing health chiefs to put patients first and bring this key service closer to home. Incredibly nearly 30% of Buckland Hospital remains unused. There is clearly an opportunity to bring more services to our area. So I recently discussed what new services East Kent Hospitals could provide at Buckland with chief executive Susan Acott. She is now looking at whether specialist elderly care services – including treatment for conditions such as Parkinson's – can be brought to Buckland. Meanwhile, at Deal hospital there is a great opportunity for more COPD, respiratory and rehab services.
It's vital to invest in mental health treatment too. New figures show that 150 young people in Kent suffering from mental health problems are waiting more than a year for treatment to start. This is simply unacceptable. Mental health is just as important as physical health – and it must be treated that way. Recently I learnt of plans to slash hours at Deal Mental Health Centre. I immediately contacted health chiefs, demanding a rethink. They have now agreed to keep this vital service open five days a week.
Last week a £20 billion funding boost was announced for the NHS. This is great news – yet this cash must be spent wisely on providing more healthcare, not more bureaucracy and waste.
We need to see more doctors and nurses, improvements to social care – and healthcare provided as close as possible to home. That's why it's so important to keep up the fight for a fairer share of healthcare in our area.
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But still no news about his case and what the police have to do with it,has the case been dropped,?I feel that the public of Dover should know the whole story.

Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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To be honest my only concern is that this is dealt with swiftly
unless they have charges(and if they do then they should produce them)
but if it's left to late Charlie could lose the seat for the wrong reasons and with no evidence its quite wrong how this has all been dealt with.
Charlie wouldn't win as an indy against the official party candidate
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Pablo- Registered: 21 Mar 2018
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If he stood as an Indy he would split the Tory vote right down the middle and let Labour in.