howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Red Charlie standing up for the workers again, won't be long before he punches the air with a clenched fist whilst shouting "power to the people".
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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We need that revenue to give it to the EU .
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Latest from Charlie.
Caring for those affected by the Grenfell Tower tragedy. How our community spirit here in Dover &
Deal makes me so proud.
My weekly newsletter:
In the early hours of Wednesday, June 14th, a fire broke out in Grenfell Tower, West London. Many of us woke up that morning to horrific images on our TVs of flames engulfing the 24-storey building. At least eighty people were killed in the tragedy.
At such times we feel like we must do something to help those in need. Yet we ourselves feel helpless. What can we really do to make a difference? Local charities were bombarded with clothes and donations. Yet before long they started turning things away because they already had far more than they could handle. People here in Dover and Deal got in touch with me asking what could be done to help.
My first thought was what do we here have to offer in our corner of Kent? We have beautiful beaches, incredible history and lots of things to do. The victims of the fire should be offered the opportunity to enjoy all Dover and Deal has to offer.
I met with local hotelier Ian Dunkerley. He wanted to do something to help the victims too. His daughter works in a school just 400 metres from the tower. Hoteliers at The Clarendon, The King's Head and The Royal in Deal also offered to help.
We got our heads together and started planning an all-inclusive trip with local businesses. Dover Sea Safari offered a boat ride around the harbour. The Dover Marina Hotel said they could put on lunch. English Heritage provided tickets for Dover Castle and Walmer Castle. Dunkerley's Seafood Restaurant would do dinner. And the Clarendon Hotel offered an overnight room. All free of charge.
And last month I was delighted to welcome Judith and Rafthina Peterson down to Dover and Deal. We met in the square outside The King's Head in Deal where live music had been playing all afternoon in glorious sunshine. We had a long chat about the fire at Grenfell. How they had been made homeless. How their lives had been turned upside down. It was heart breaking to hear.
Yet when we asked how they had enjoyed their trip to Dover and Deal, big smiles appeared on their faces. They said they'd had a fantastic time and it was one the best breaks they'd ever had. Their local council said Judith and Rafthina returned to London with a spring in their step.
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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all a bit fishy.
bit of a coupdetat going on in the wipps office maybe,charly been rocking the boat on tax evasion by the big companies.
bit strange that all these politicians are not being told of the allegations against them ??
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The picine reference from Mr Bibby may have some foundation especially as Charlie has moved on from poacher to gamekeeper which must grate on the Tory high command. Chas is right that it is against natural justice to suspend anyone without telling them why. So much for all the loyalty he has shown to the party since 2010.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Jan Higgins
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- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,790
And me
, I still think this is a case of someone instigating this and thoroughly enjoying Charlie's downfall.
I feel so sorry for his family.
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Guest 1831- Registered: 1 Sep 2016
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I have Tweeted Mrs T May and asked what Charlie Elphicke has done
Actually, I and many of us, know he has been a naughty boy.
However, for the police to get involved, he has, to have, become even naughtier.
Button
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- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
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Can't help thinking that there's an 'alleged' missing from post 30.
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Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,845
interesting post 29
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
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Meanwhile, in the adjacent constituency, the Conservative MP has been investigated by police, charged and awaits trial next May - all without, so far as I'm aware, the whip being withdrawn.
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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pray, tell all Button?
Button- Location: Dover
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Mr Mackinlay and his election expenses charges.
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Button wrote:Meanwhile, in the adjacent constituency, the Conservative MP has been investigated by police, charged and awaits trial next May - all without, so far as I'm aware, the whip being withdrawn.
Seems he has not upset someone who has that extra bit of influence with the big wigs.
#30....Christine obviously thinks knows what Charlie's
alleged crime might be or maybe she is one of those who simply likes to stir the pot.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Saw Charlie coming out of Mass earlier with his wife, he then collected a wreath from his car to lay at the Town Council offices.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,892
Article by Natalie in S Times:-
A callous party has thrown my husband to the wolves and left my family in fear
Natalie Elphicke
On November 3, a Friday, we were enjoying a quiet family night. My husband and I sat side by side chatting, catching up on the week, when just after 9pm my husband’s phone rang. It was a senior journalist from the national press.
A reporter phoning on an evening or over the weekend is not unusual. That call was. The journalist told Charlie that he had lost the Tory party whip and stood accused of a serious crime. It was the first indication that anything was wrong.
The phone started ringing from a flurry of media outlets. It was many more minutes before the chief whip spoke to Charlie.
Pressed for a reason for his action, the chief whip refused to give one, saying only that it was his and the prime minister’s decision. He would not tell Charlie of what he was accused.
Before we even had a chance to tell our children, the news spread like wildfire across the national media. A BBC journalist tweeted Charlie’s suspension before Charlie had received any communication from the chief whip. The government had told the media before my husband.
This past week another man, a respected and hardworking assembly member of the Welsh assembly, Carl Sargeant, took his own life after having the whip removed without knowing of what he was accused.
By his actions on November 3, the new chief whip showed himself to be a man without any thought as to the welfare and wellbeing of my husband and our children. He put the news cycle and spin before doing the right thing.
It is the case throughout history that good people have been brought down by bad advisers who put their own interest first. I find it hard to believe that the Theresa May I know, the Theresa May that my husband and I were proud to campaign for as leader of our party, who has been a guest at my family home, would have taken this action herself.
I have always been a Conservative and part of the Conservative family. As Conservatives we cannot stand by when injustice is heaped upon injustice. When wrong follows wrong. When one of our own is thrown to the wolves — is hung out to dry in this manner without even being told of what he is accused.
It happened to my husband. It happened to Carl Sargeant. It could happen to anyone.
These are serious matters. Where issues are potentially criminal, complainants must go to the police. No ifs or buts. They are the proper authority, not a bunch of politicians and party men.
Taking away the whip is a political punishment. It will never be the right action to withdraw the whip before the police have had a chance to consider whether to take action — or before an independent body has had a chance to consider appropriate action.
To suspend the whip in such circumstances is to put at risk the rule of law itself and the chance for a person to have a fair hearing. It makes the job of the police harder. We have seen in other situations that taking precipitous action can result in extreme prejudice and false allegations.
I cannot begin to describe the hurt and strain, the confusion and fear for me and my family. So I would like to put on record my thanks for the hundreds of messages of warmth and prayers from across the country that have sustained us day after day.
Because decent men and women across the land know that in this country it is our most precious tenet of justice that a man is innocent unless and until he is proven otherwise. That is our rule of law.
And at this time, when our political system is so fragile and so much is at stake as we leave the European Union, it is more important than ever that we hold fast to our core principles and British values.
I repeat that I find it hard to believe that the Theresa May I know, whom I have been proud to see as our second female prime minister, would have taken this action herself; would have acted in such a way and without any regard whatsoever to the wellbeing of myself, my husband and our children.
But this isn’t just about me and my family. Many politicians stand accused by spreadsheet and social media, their families privately scared and grieving, their families shamed and alone.
I ask Theresa May to show us her compassion and her commitment to the principles of justice and our British way of life. When parliament returns this week I ask her to stop the desperate madness, to put an end to these kangaroo courts by political central offices and to support a creation of a truly independent and non-political arbitrator. To support the rule of law, and allow all claims made by any complainant to be handled in a professional, independent way.
Rushing to judgment has lead to the death of one man who lived to serve those who elected him. It must not be allowed to lead to any more.
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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I read real anger behind those justifiable words and I am not at all surprised it must be absolute hell for her at the moment.
Seems from the above that Teresa May is no longer in control of what happens around her. If that is the case her days as leader must surely be numbered.
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