Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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It continues. Don't say you weren't warned.
'Peaceful protest' has already become intimidation.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,909
See other posts on Mr Tapp on Elphicke thread .
Neil I'm glad you at least see the light on this one.
Mr Tapp didn't have a problem with it at a meeting I went to last night.
Folkestone Labour has come out against her joining
Dover Labour has welcomed her in!!!!!
Even for Starmer I scratch my head trying to understand this defection .
Ok so some Tories may wish to switch , but this woman was so anti labour, anti starmer, anti unions ,
The list goes on and on
She must have been promised something in return for crossing the floor , but I think Starmer and Tapp will lose more votes than they will gain by letting her in.
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
- Posts: 1,299
The calculation will be that outside of Dover & Deal, nobody will have heard of Nathalie Elphicke. Therefore, they can get away with it, as people won't generally know how ridiculous it looks - and certainly not enough to dent the overall narrative of "even Dover MP gives up on Tories protecting our borders". But for those of us in Dover and Deal, it stinks.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,852
For me Natalie has shown what kind of person she is, definitely not someone I want to know or be my MP regardless of party.
I know little about Tapp except for his tv appearances and so far he comes across as someone who would be quite acceptable as my MP.
Sadly nearly all politicians when they reach the top give the impression they are self-serving and just think of politics as a career.
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Arthur- Registered: 18 Nov 2020
- Posts: 438
As I’ve said on many occasions Dover/Deal needs a local candidate who will represent the people of the constituency and not the party machines. An Independent candidate would be good for many many areas and enough of them could make a significant impact on changing the way people feel about politics
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Jan Higgins wrote:
I know little about Tapp except for his tv appearances
I was talkng to someone in town about Mike and they were under the impression that he might have served in the armed forces at some time?
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,045
He's very keen - I've received 3 copies of his pamphlet in as many days!
(Not my real name.)
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,909
In a meeting on why Mr Rapp continues to live in Tunbridge wells , his argument for this is that no matter where he lived in Dover or Deal he still wouldn't be living in every ward .
I'm still trying to get my head around that one lol
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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I heard it was because he couldn't think of a decent area to live in in Dover and he couldn't afford Deal prices?
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 3,046
'We have been Labour Party members for years and are deeply shocked to have just discovered that Labour is a neocon party, just like the other parties. We will start another splinter socialist party that only supports the neocon policies we previously agreed with.'
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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Just looking at Dover/Deal seat , although it's suspected that Elphicke won't stand, in a seat Labour has problems winning, under Blair people were fed up with Tories and Labour h e covered every aspect to make sure he got to number ten.
At the time he appeared to the public to be popular .
Starmer doesn't appear to have the same kind of following, I wonder how much that will affect the result , although we don't yet know who the Tory candidate is to be
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Arthur- Registered: 18 Nov 2020
- Posts: 438
Vote for someone who GENUINELY cares about Dover/Deal and not the party machine. There maybe other options if a local candidate comes forward.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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The Tunbridge wells candidate is in place.
If reform select him Mr Defriend (the local political parties should play no part in local govt , before doing so himself !)
He will be local
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Arthur- Registered: 18 Nov 2020
- Posts: 438
Never heard of Mr Defriend!
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Ok matey
He stood Dover town seat on Dover town council was elected as an independent largely on a campaign to keep political parties out of local govt .
No sooner than elected he became a political party councillor!
Funny Arthur you don't know him , he recently said at a political party meeting he's now joined and likely to be the parliamentary candidate for , he has the following !
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Arthur- Registered: 18 Nov 2020
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Thank you Keith, I’ve just researched Mr Defriend. Had genuinely never heard his name before.
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,702
Sadly I forecast he will lose his deposit as would any of the current crop of indies on the town councils, mostly because their support is pretty much restricted to the area they represent & isn't district wide.
Outside of the major political parties any successful candidate needs to have a very broad appeal across the constituency, which requires being very active over a considerable number of years.
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While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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- Posts: 23,909
Ross
Keep up matey
Mr Defriend is no longer Indy
He's thrown all his election promises to one side an d member of a political party
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 3,046
Keep up, KS.
RM was making a general point.
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