Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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Firstly Bob as you know I have had nothing to do with the red corner for 8 years
and I'm not even sure Stuart ever had
But please don't lecture on the red corner when your blue corner are all lining up to be rid of your leader.
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Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,070
Woo Hoo! Three way tag fight!
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,919
I won
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Meet the candidate.
Michelle Dorrell will be at the "Mean Bean" coffee shop in town tomorrow the 24th from 2 pm.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,875
howard mcsweeney1 wrote:Meet the candidate.
Michelle Dorrell will be at the "Mean Bean" coffee shop in town tomorrow the 24th from 2 pm.
Meet and greet in the warm, will it be tooooooooo cold outside or is she a coffee addict.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Coffee addict? Not surprised - probably believes proper tea is theft.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Most of the endorsements seem to indicate who the favourite is.
http://www.michelledorrell.com/Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,257
Well that was a most entertaining read, i haven't laugh out loud like that for a while.
Arte et Marte
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,705
Indeed
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While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The two candidates in pole position have been parachuted in which is unfortunate as we are a local constituency for local people, there is nothing for them here.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Spot the deliberate mistake here.
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Attended 'Fighting Sexism in Politics conference in Westminster Cathedral Hall. Great speakers including Harriet Harman, Angela Eagle and Dawn Butler shadow minister. All agreed that the next leader of the Labour Party should be a woman.
Guest 1997- Registered: 3 Mar 2017
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I agree with you, Howard. There might have been a chance in the current climate for a good local candidate to cause an upset. That's looking unlikely now. Charlie will be chuckling.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Stuart Honey wrote:I agree with you, Howard. There might have been a chance in the current climate for a good local candidate to cause an upset. That's looking unlikely now. Charlie will be chuckling.
I would have voted for Stacey, although she is young and inexperienced she is born and bred here and understands what people are looking for. Add to that she was chosen from a non sexist short list last time and had no time to make herself known to the electorate as the election had already been called but nevertheless got a reasonable vote. If I remember correctly Chas was kissing babies and opening village fetes all of two years before he ascended to the throne in 2010.
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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about tern for the Labour party now I think, as they rat on the core voters in the North over EU exit
John Buckley
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:I would have voted for Stacey, although she is young and inexperienced she is born and bred here and understands what people are looking for. Add to that she was chosen from a non sexist short list last time and had no time to make herself known to the electorate as the election had already been called but nevertheless got a reasonable vote. If I remember correctly Chas was kissing babies and opening village fetes all of two years before he ascended to the throne in 2010.
In addition to that she has always come across as a really decent person, even before her involvement in politics.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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Labour has a problem;
Move to the left middle England wont support(thus stay in opposition)
move to middle England voters lose cor voters get in number 1o but just be a second rate tory party.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Keith Sansum1 wrote:Labour has a problem;
Move to the left middle England wont support(thus stay in opposition)
move to middle England voters lose cor voters get in number 1o but just be a second rate tory party.
We live in changing times Keith the edumakayted class will vote for Labour irrespective of former party allegiance simply if they support a good deal upon leaving the EU. Lib Dems will also support them as their party is almost defunct. The main worry for Labour has been about alienating core support from those who voted to leave in Northern marginal seats(as KB pointed out) but with no UKIP to contend with that problem is neatly solved.
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
- Posts: 1,299
Agree with Howard. Given that Labour doesn't want to try and debunk the myth that it is Government under investment, rather than migrants, that have caused the disenfranchisement of traditional Labour heartlands in the north - then the best hope is that without UKIP to worry about, everything will be OK in any event.
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,705
I see it a little differently; at a time when we have an ineffective, internally squabbling and divided Conservative Party along with the total implosion of UKIP, Labour has decided that rather than redefine social democracy to make it relevant to the 21st century they will look backwards to the failed social corporatism of the mid 20th century and the centrist apologism of the Blair years.
The referendum vote and the Labour leadership elections presented a golden opportunity for the left (esp. Labour) to create a new paradigm for left of centre politics, redrawing what we mean by social democracy, social action, community involvement & engagement, equality of opportunity from cradle to grave, education as a right, even dare I say the redefinition of Clause 4 to make it pertinent and relevant to new modes of working and ownership etc. etc. but instead the left has unleashed the dark heart of itself and is in danger of disappearing down a holier than though pc Stalinist cul-de-sac.
There is little time for Labour moderates and modernists to join ranks and stand against the complete take over of Labour by the political bullies of momentum; if they do not our two major parties will become pastiches of themselves; the Conservatives have already done so with their ugly politics of greed and class and sanctimonious hectoring and lecturing of those who dare to disagree.
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While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
cor flipping heck,this thread is getting just as bad as the current bun.
