Paul M- Registered: 1 Feb 2016
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You would think so wouldn't you, Judith? I believe if the Labour Party had selected any other candidate other than Corbyn for leader then they would be up to 20 points ahead in the polls.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Weird Granny Slater
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Hunt, as Foreign Secretary, has certainly got himself in a prime position with regard to the globalist corporate, military and political movers and shakers for whom the UK is a willing neocon lackey, e.g. EU, NATO, Pentagon, oily people (e.g. Saudis; but not the Russians, of course, they're the enemy, for the moment at least). And with his history of continuing the neoliberalisation of the NHS, he's well set up. The only other one with similar contacts is Gavin the kid (and he would have been brought down another peg or two by the wrist-slap his latest naughtiness earned him from his own department's intelligence arm).
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Captain Haddock
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Captain Haddock wrote:Nice to see my tip Rory Stewart creeping up on the inside rail.
James Cleverly still at long odds but well worth a punt.
Loyalty is
always rewarded in the Party.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Rory Stewart managed to be the epitome of a penis today and would do well to consider other career options
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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When the missus is four sheets to the wind, there's always a place for men with both oars out of the water.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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All potential leaders jostling for position overnight and today with Raab and Javid favourites but as we have seen the PM is highly resilient and has no intention of stepping down.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Government whips have been ordered to return to Westminster in anticipation of a vote of no confidence in the PM.
Bob Whysman
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:Government whips have been ordered to return to Westminster in anticipation of a vote of no confidence in the PM.
Whatever happens Howard the country will still be knee deep in manure. Politicians and their promises.........
Do nothing and nothing happens.
Button
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Makes me nostalgic for the duckhouse era.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Apparently the 48 letters are now with the 1922 committee meaning a leadership challenge and frankly I don't see having the sideshow of a contest going on will help at this particular time.
Brian Dixon
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more like a freak show howard.. lol
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Courtesy of the Times. (The vultures are circling)
Boris Johnson has told allies to expect Theresa May to resign on Wednesday as leadership candidates scramble for position. Tory MPs yesterday reported “febrile” communications from those jockeying for position ahead of a contest many now expect imminently. Jeremy Hunt, the foreign secretary, is believed to be making a pitch as the candidate to deliver a “managed no-deal” exit. “He’s saying ‘you know what, no deal is not ideal but at the end of the day it would be fine,’ ” said a senior Tory on the right of the party.
Sajid Javid, the home secretary, is making clear that he could not support a no-deal exit, saying that those who believe it would be an acceptable outcome are “deluded”. Both were absent from a meeting of supportive cabinet ministers called into Downing Street on Thursday to discuss the vote.
The hard Brexit wing of the Tory party, led by Jacob Rees-Mogg, is determined to field a single candidate but cannot agree between Mr Johnson and Dominic Raab.
Some Conservative MPs, meanwhile, expect Amber Rudd and Michael Gove to pair up on a ticket that will appeal to the party to unite around a “Norway then Canada” Brexit. Mrs May survived an attempted coup led by Mr Rees-Mogg last month when 24 Tory MPs declared that they had lost confidence in her. That is half the number needed to trigger a ballot but the overall tally can include confidential letters submitted to Sir Graham Brady, the chairman of the 1922 Committee.
The prime minister has previously said she would contest a party vote of no confidence. If she won, she would be safe from another challenge for a year. Fear of failure has thus far stayed the hand of many mutinous Tories but a crushing Commons defeat next week will lead many to recalculate the risks.
Keith Sansum1
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They are in a right mess and really whoever takes over has big issues to solve as the party is so divided
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Keith Sansum1 wrote:They are in a right mess and really whoever takes over has big issues to solve as the party is so divided
Correct, BUT unlike the 'opposition' the only divisions would appear to be over Brexit.
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Ross Miller
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This whole fiasco has just confirmed to the public that all political parties are full of a mix of charlatans, incompetents, chancers, hypocrites, snake oil salesman, crooks and the very odd individual of principle.
Whilst for most of my adult life politicians have been held generally in low regard, the current level of anger and contempt felt towards them is astounding. Sadly it is something they have brought upon themselves.
Perhaps the only answer now is to create new parties...
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Ross Miller wrote:This whole fiasco has just confirmed to the public that all political parties are full of a mix of charlatans, incompetents, chancers, hypocrites, snake oil salesman, crooks and the very odd individual of principle.
Yup. But I thought the idea was to have MPs who represent and reflect the diversity of the electorate?
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Jan Higgins
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While I agree with nearly all Ross said in #278, I do not think we need any more new parties for the ego driven to enjoy a good squabble.
Captain again I agree but they are not expected to behave like spoilt unruly children in the middle of a public space.
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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As Douglas Carswell said (and I amazingly agree) - the first party to find a competent leader cleans up here.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Boris Johnson seems to be back in the running despite most of his colleagues seeing him as a chancer. He is telling people that he would keep half the divorce money back until a trade deal with the EU is completed which I understand would be illegal. He knows that if he can get on the list of 2 that goes to the members he would be favourite to win.