Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,788
"He knows that if he can get on the list of 2 that goes to the members he would be favourite to win."
I think that should be a big if and a big might. I can never see him or Rees-Mogg as future leaders, one is a buffoon the other gives me the creeps.
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Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,837
Indeed some of what is being said is correct
Which is sad as our elected officials
Of course we could say the same about some recent posters but that's another story lol
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,788
I am surprised the political minded on here have not posted this already.
Vote of Confidence takes place tonight, the 48 letters now received.
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Bob Whysman
- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
- Posts: 1,931
Jan Higgins wrote:I am surprised the political minded on here have not posted this already.
Vote of Confidence takes place tonight, the 48 letters now received.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news
I believe boredom with the whole saga has set in Jan.
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Do nothing and nothing happens.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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It seems fairly certain that she will win which will suit Labour who think she will then lead the party at the next General Election.
Bob Whysman- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:It seems fairly certain that she will win which will suit Labour who think she will then lead the party at the next General Election.
She only got in last time Howard by default.......all the other contenders dropped out and so there was no vote necessary from the constituencies to elect her.
Do nothing and nothing happens.
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
- Posts: 2,158
Bob is right. May only reached the top of the greasy pole because Loathsome dropped out. All this is about is ERG trying to throw a further spanner in the works because they know the current legal position demands that we crash out on March 31st regardless of the will of either parliament or the people. Well done everyone concerned. I hope you feel suitably proud!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Matthew Parris writing in the Times.
This is a huge gamble for Theresa May’s hardline Brexit critics, and they are by no means assured of success. It has taken them a long time to achieve the 48 letters necessary for a leadership challenge, and if they have struggled to reach 48 they will struggle to reach the overall majority of Tory MPs that would force her to resign. Among Tory MPs there will be three types of immediate response to this morning’s news. The first is that this is a terrible time for a leadership election. The argument that it is damaging, disruptive, even “unpatriotic” to start this fight now, so close to Britain’s departure from the EU, when the government has still been unable to find agreement on the terms, is very, very strong. “Not now, for God’s sake” will be the conclusion drawn throughout Westminster today.
The second response – and it will come from many – is that there is nothing to lose any longer. Mrs May and her administration are boxed in, paralysed – in a sense we no longer have a prime minister anyway – so why carry on with her at the helm? This will be felt with some passion, but those who feel it are the usual suspects, and until this morning they had not amounted to more than 48.
The third – and this view may have some purchase right across the party – is that this is a terrible time for a contest, but now it has been called the decision facing the Tory party is actually whether they want May as prime minister until at least Christmas 2019. The rules prohibit a second leadership challenge within twelve months of this, the first one.
That third view – not that MPs want her out now, but that it’s now or “never” – will be strong among many. And the prime minister does have a way of answering it. She could undertake now to quit as soon as Britain has left the EU. This would satisfy those MPs who believe she is not the person to steer us through the “implementation” period during which the final shape of our new relationship with the EU is determined.
Is it in her nature to promise to quit, but not yet? I somehow doubt it. Her pride is strong and her remaining time as PM would be spent as a lame duck leader, humiliated, on death row. Her statement outside Downing Street seemed to confirm my expectation that she will be defiant and face her critics down. We should not assume that a narrow win would be fatal to her, because she is not a quitter. A majority of one would suffice for the Theresa May we have come to know. But of course she would be weakened by a narrow win, and her MPs know it. On balance, therefore, I would expect her to win, if not comfortably then at least plausibly. But what a mess. What a terrible picture the Conservative Party is painting of itself, before the electorate. I more and more wonder how long the Tories can keep their show on the road.
Reginald Barrington
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- Posts: 3,225
Thanks Ray you just made my day a little better!
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Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,007
I find that when you're down, bemused and nothing is going your way, there's nothing like a spot of pointless displacement activity and chorus of Jerusalem to give you a break. Deckchair anyone?
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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I seem to remember May originally only staying to see Brexit in the was then going to resign, something that is obviously now going to happen regardless of which way tonight's vote goes.
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
ray, I see your point, but article 50 may be played in by the end of febuary,.
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
- Posts: 2,158
# 291 - Reg, I'm sorry. I didn't intend to sound too depressing. Just my personal opinion.
# 294 - Brian, I don't get your meaning. What do you mean when you say article 50 may be "played in" by the end of Feb?
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,877
Strange but true?
"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Bob Whysman- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
- Posts: 1,931
Jan Higgins wrote:I seem to remember May originally only staying to see Brexit in the was then going to resign, something that is obviously now going to happen regardless of which way tonight's vote goes.
The vote tonight is probably just a ploy to give Theresa May another year of purgatory and make a bit more for her millionaire husband who was sitting in the gallery at PMQ counting his future fortune.
No doubt humming:
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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I think its more like this.
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Bob Whysman- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
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Now Brian, press play on both videos and listen to the result.
Now THATS Brexit!
Do nothing and nothing happens.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
no way bob.maggie mays job is blowing in the wind.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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after the result to night in parliament square. around 10 pm.
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Bob Whysman- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
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Looks like Theresa May won the vote 200 for 117 against.
Do nothing and nothing happens.
