Captain Haddock
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Keith Sansum1 wrote:Jan/Bob
I think the opposite its the mail concerned tories wont go out to vote this reminds them to
For God's sake Keith. I was OK with the GCHQ puzzle book, but this one has fooled me completely!
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Keith Sansum1
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I do wonder if the Limp Dems will put a candidate up but for Dover few lib dems will up to Sarah Smith's standards
RIP Sarah
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:There is a list going around showing candidates being investigated for expenses fraud with Charlie's name on it. Clearly a spoof but our Charlie tries to make political capital out of it by blaming the Labour Party.
As if the Tories haven't tried to blame their financial mismanagement on Labour before!
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Typical of Blair wanted everyones support when he was PM but very disloyal now not there
hope he never returns
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Keith Sansum1 wrote:Typical of Blair wanted everyones support when he was PM but very disloyal now not there
hope he never returns
Always comes back to bite them Keith, Jezza spent his whole career being disloyal until he became leader. Cruella is now expecting the same from her party, unfortunately Georgie boy is now editor of the Evening Dradnats and will devote his time to stabbing her.
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Keith Sansum1 wrote:I do wonder if the Limp Dems will put a candidate up but for Dover few lib dems will up to Sarah Smith's standards
RIP Sarah
Sarah was a lovely decent lady, let's not forget she lost her deposit.
Politics is brutal, people who hang around in it for years are egotistical tribalists.
At least Captain Haddock isn't a tribalist ;-)
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Glad to see Jezza is talking about reversing cuts to the NHS.
Here's a graph showing just how much has already been 'cut' + future proposals
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I wonder how much of that will go into the pockets of private contractors.
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:I wonder how much of that will go into the pockets of private contractors.
And I wonder who in the real world gives a damn as long as they provide a better service at a cheaper price than our bloated NHS?
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Interestingly MOST civilised countries (and a few uncivilised) ones have universal health care - 58 countries in total.
Our (sic) NHS is not that special and the position of the USA is the exception rather than the rule.
NONE of them in setting up their health service has chosen to follow our model for funding however, with the idea of everything being 'free' for everybody (hence the flights full of pregnant Nigerians routed Lagos - Heathrow - St George's Hospital Tooting) and paid for by taxation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_universal_health_care"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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Jan Higgins
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Those of us who pay their taxes help fund the NHS so in no way do we get 'free' health care especially with the cost of prescriptions for those in work.
Definitely time to cut down on the waste and poor management and make the NHS less of the sacred cow.
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and the over paid management,talk about pigs at a trough.
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Brian Dixon wrote:and the over paid management,talk about pigs at a trough.
Bollocks. Fewer than 3% of NHS employees are in management. PLEASE tell me other organisations which have such a low percentage. Over paid compared to whom?
It's not some sort of hereditary position so I've never understood those who complain about 'overpaid' about this that and the other.
It's the same with 'overpaid' footballers - it's usually sedentary chubbies who couldn't kick a ball if they wanted to, complaining.
Reminds me of the Peter Cook sketch where he 'could have been a High Court Judge, but didn't have the Latin'.
http://www.nhsconfed.org/~/media/Confederation/Files/Publications/Documents/Management%20in%20the%20NHS.pdf"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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The document you cite was published in 2007. Furthermore, it obviously uses figures prior to 2007. Can you provide a source to substantiate your >3% claim and, while you are at it, provide a source for your #172 repellent insinuation too, please?
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The Bishop wrote:The document you cite was published in 2007. Furthermore, it obviously uses figures prior to 2007. Can you provide a source to substantiate your >3% claim and, while you are at it, provide a source for your #172 repellent insinuation too, please?
Or did that uni-dexter, Mr Spiggott, at the Tarzan audition, have more of a leg to stand on?
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Managers as of 2013 (Total NHS staff 1,364,165):-
Managers and Senior managers
There were 36,360 managers and senior managers, a decrease of 954(2.6%) since 2012and an increase of 1,039(2.9%) since 2003((an average annual increase of0.3%).
This works out as 2.67% which I believe is smaller than 3% AS I SAID.
http://content.digital.nhs.uk/catalogue/PUB13724/nhs-staf-2003-2013-over-rep.pdf
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Strange but true. Chris 'Chubby' Tough throws his hat into the ring while the local lefties are in such disarray that they can't unite behind a 'local' candidate!
(Photo of Tough with his Euro version of Salome's Dance of the Seven Veils winning Mill Hill's Got Talent 2015)
Chris Tough Yesterday at 10:53 · Deal · This morning I put my parliament candidate forms to become an INDEPENDENT MP
Stuart Cox There should be a Labour candidate sorted by the end of the week. Applications closed at noon and the NEC will have a very busy few days.
Chris Tough Not enough branch members with conviction with labour.. good luck..
Chris Tough Even KCC [U]Candidates for Deal and Walmer didn't have enough labour branch members to support their candidacy[/U].. shows the state of affairs of local dedicated labour branch members.. LOL
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Captain Haddock wrote:Managers as of 2013 (Total NHS staff 1,364,165):-
Managers and Senior managers
There were 36,360 managers and senior managers, a decrease of 954(2.6%) since 2012and an increase of 1,039(2.9%) since 2003((an average annual increase of0.3%).
This works out as 2.67% which I believe is smaller than 3% AS I SAID.
http://content.digital.nhs.uk/catalogue/PUB13724/nhs-staf-2003-2013-over-rep.pdf
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Having looked up 2.67% and compared it with 3%, I can confirm that it is indeed less than 3%. Even the Wikipedia agrees.
Does that figure include all the outsourced managerial 'consultants', planners, blue sky visionaries etc. that have been awarded NHS contracts?
(I note the Health and Social Care Information Centre has subsequently rebadged to by NHS Digital "NHS Digital, formerly the Health and Social Care Information Centre is an executive non-departmental public body of the Department of Health. The organisation was re-branded as NHS Digital on 1 August 2016." Number of employees: 2,500
Motto: Information and technology for better health and care
Annual budget: 250 million GBP according to a quick google search.)
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