Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,845
There was in those elections the play as usual by UKIP on the anti labour/tory vote
but slowly UKIP are being found out, and few people will vote for them now, MrGlazyer appears to have got such a bad result in tower hamlets his advisor told me he had already given up winning the seat.
UKIP in thanet are likely to face a vote of no confidence and probably lose it
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Keith Sansum1 wrote:winning the seat.
UKIP in thanet are likely to face a vote of no confidence and probably lose it
Fairly standard practice in Thanet for councillors to play musical chairs and this time it will be UKIP ones trying to distance themselves from the mess either by rejoining the Tories or declaring themselves independent.
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,896
Stupid, stupid, stupid councillors. The CEO of Thanet Council had shown them what they should have done. (See in bold below):-
Madeline Homer to all TDC Councillors regarding the local plan vote this Thursday:
Local Plan Note
We are all aware of interest in maintaining Manston Airport Site for aviation use which was apparent at the last council elections.
Consequently, following the 2015 election, a decision was taken by the Council to review RiverOak’s proposals for a CPO for the airport (which was rejected in 2014). This took a considerable amount of Member and Officer resources but resulted in a decision not to proceed with a CPO.
Subsequently, a further market testing exercise was undertaken which did not result in the identification of a suitable indemnity partner.
Since then I understand some informal approaches have been made from potential parties who express an interest in the Manston Airport Site but no formal contact has been made to Officers nor has any direct submission of interest been received by the Council.
The Council also sought to establish the status of Manston Airport through the Local Plan process and sought specific legal advice on how that might be achieved. The advice received from lawyers was that we needed to establish whether there was any likelihood of a viable airport during the local plan period, as the Local Plan has to be soundly based on a robust, credible evidence base. It will be this question of 'soundness' which will be central to its examination.
The Council therefore commissioned Avia Solutions as independent aviation experts to advise the Council on the viability of Manston Airport. Their evidence concludes that an airport is not viable and consequently the advice from officers and their legal advisers is that the site should be designated as a mixed use site in the Local Plan. This is due to the fact that it is a largely Brownfield site and therefore consideration has to be given to other policy priorities e.g. housing which has to be linked to jobs and other services.
Whilst it is recognised that both SHP and RiverOak have commissioned experts to support their case, the Council cannot consider those reports as independent. The Local Plan process rightly enables those reports to be considered by the Inspector at Examination.
In the meantime, RiverOak have decided to proceed with their ambitions through a potential DCO on the basis that Manston is a nationally significant infrastructure project (NSIP). That process continues independently from the Council and the Local Plan process.
Council are being asked to agree to submit the plan following publication, after which it will be submitted to the Planning Inspectorate for examination. At that examination all those who make comments at publication stage be able to make representations on the draft policies including those relating to the Manston Airport site that means that those who support the retention of the airport use will be able to submit their evidence and views to the Inspector to consider.
I am aware that a number of Members are minded not to support the publication of the Local Plan and this would have a number of serious consequences for the council and the community it serves:
Failing to publish the plan would mean that there is no plan and therefore no-one will have the opportunity to make any comments on the plan. This includes public commentary on the airport i.e. those supporting or opposing the airport will be prevented from being given the opportunity to put their views and evidence before the Inspector and persuade him/her to accept their views.
The Ministry of Housing, Communities & Local Government (MHCLG) are highly likely to intervene if the council does not publish its Local Plan; this means we will lose control over our Local Plan process. The MHCLG have specifically requested that Officers make Members aware of the risks and consequences.
Failing to follow the advice of officers and the supporting legal advice also shows to the LGA and MHCLG that we are not demonstrating that we have learnt the lessons from the recent past and will impact on the credibility and reputation of the council.
The Council will continue to be exposed to ad hoc development as it will not have a 5 year housing supply which equally applies to and includes the Manston Airport site so technically you could receive an application for thousands of homes for that site which is potentially winnable on appeal. At least plan B gives you some control over that site rather than a free for all.
It is highly likely that the Council will have to accommodate the additional 3,000 + houses as we will not achieve submission of our local plan by the 31st March deadline.
A decision to reject the Local Plan without proper grounds runs the risk of Judicial Review on the basis of irrationality, bias or predetermination.
Given the above risks and the fact that there is an NSIP/DCO process being progressed giving the opportunity of an operational airport at Manston in the future it seems rational to consider an alternative proposal to the current recommendation.
Whilst the DCO (if accepted) would replace the Local Plan policies for Manston, there remains a continued wish amongst some Members to provide support to a future aviation use in the Local Plan.
*****Legal advice has been obtained on how this might be achieved, and the advice is, it could be achieved by deferring the mixed-use designation pending the resolution of the DCO process. *****
The deferral would be for two years, the rationale for this is that the Inspector needs to balance the interest of all parties in respect of the site and the Inspector must be sure the provisions within the local plan do not prejudice delivery of housing as it relates to the required 5 year housing supply.
This deferral would also allow any other interested parties to pursue the operational use of the airport through agreement with landowners or through becoming an indemnity partner as part of CPO process with the Council.
The revised proposal would read;
‘That subject to the inclusion of the following in relation to the Manston Airport site:
The site proposals are deferred for a period of two years. In the event that a DCO or CPO supporting aviation use is accepted within that two years (or the landowner operates a commercial airport at the site within that time) the allocation specified in this policy will not take effect.
The Council agree that, after the Publication period, the draft Local Plan be submitted to the planning Inspectorate for Examination.’
I ask that all members heed the content of this note.
Madeline Homer
Chief Executive
January 2018
"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Things looking very confused now with the NEC likely to pass a vote of no confidence in Henry today although it would then be up to the remaining members if he stays or not. The MEPs all seem very gloomy about the situation with many saying the party could well get wiped in the May local elections.
Meanwhile Nigel has been in talks with possible donors about starting up a new party solely with the intent of hastening our departure from the EU.
Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 2,989
Bolton the Wanderer 0 : 1 NEC. Wanderer's own goal gifts victory to the committee's good men (and women) and true. In the forthcoming second leg, to be played within 28 days, both squads will field expanded teams.
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'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Going down like flies now, Jezza must be loving every minute of it although I suspect a few of these people have been waiting for the opportunity to distance themselves from the party.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ukip-mike-hookem-resigns-assistant-deputy-leader-henry-bolton-latest-updates-a8171941.htmlCaptain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,896
The thing that for the life of me I can't understand is why anyone of Bolton's age would even consider having an affair with a 25 year old 'glamour model'.
"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,896
UKIP still in meltdown! I've never known so many people I've never heard of resigning from posts I didn't know existed over such a short period!
To cap it all Bolton is going to make a statement from outside the hotel in Folkestone where he has been living since leaving the former matrimonial home.
Life reflects art?
Alan Partridge eat you heart out!
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Henry has been using a suite at that hotel as a contact address since he stood for PCC, 100 quid a night approx plus 40 quid for an extra bed if needed. My understanding is that he didn't request one.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Henry is priceless, everyone in the party wants him out but he seems to think they are all wrong. He should have got his wife and kids to stand next to him while he made the statement "Little Britain" style.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
- Posts: 3,370
Harry has actually gone up in my opinion?,,how very liberal democrat of him to say he is interested in the young girl's brain, whilst very gentlemanly smashing the back doors of her fit slim bottom.
a true leader of men,, Tally ho Harry.
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Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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Mr Bolton is living at The Grand in Folkestone. He is in severe arrears as he hasn't been paying his rent or maintenance charges from the information I've heard. So, not only has he had questions levelled at his moral judgment but also his financial acumen.
Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,896
"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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I understand that, earlier this week, EDF Energy and a bailiff entered Mr Bolton's flat at The Grand in Folkestone and cut off his gas and electric supply. I've also heard from a reliable source that he is in arrears on his Grand payments to the tune of more than £25,000.
A difficult time.
Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Even Nigel Farage is not that skint.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,896
You Grace, are you going to set up the inevitable 'Just Giving' account or should I?
"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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You do it, Oh Captain, My Captain. I'm still wrestling with my conscience as to whether or not I should set up a 'Just Forgiving' page for UKIP's prodigal son.
Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 2,989
The Bishop wrote:I understand that, earlier this week, EDF Energy and a bailiff entered Mr Bolton's flat at The Grand in Folkestone and cut off his gas and electric supply.
Brexit: the Revenge continues.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
yeah right, like this then.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
- Posts: 3,370
most of the membership have jumped over to the new party
