Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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John;
My lot?
I'm not with any * lot* as you call them.
At the time with public on board I expected him to come at least a close second
As it was it wasn't even close.
Not to be to negative he got a reasonable vote
but like I say just a protest vote,
I'm sure all the candidates canvassers worked there socks off.
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John Buckley
- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
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The point of my query Keith was primarily regarding why, in your post #795, you thought that David considered that he was actually going to win the Dover seat and become our next MP.
Basically I’m just curious and making the point that, personally, I never got that impression and I daresay I knew him slightly better than yourself?
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keef I would not be surprised? if one day we see David have a go as the conservative party candidate?
so you may get to see him as your MP?
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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That's the thing Keith
So no loyalty to ukip then?
The tories I believe with Mr elphicke are scoring an own goal if they don't reinstate him soon
It will let Labour in by default
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Keith, Keith left UKIP many years ago when local business persons commandeered the local branch ousting long standing members.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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But still fighting there corner Howard
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Back to being swivel eyed loons again, Farage will be crying into his real ale.
UK Independence Party (UKIP)
55 mins ·
UKIP Leader Gerard Batten has written the following message to party members:
Tommy Robinson - Your Party, Your Decision
As you will know, Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, commonly known as Tommy Robinson, has expressed his wish to join UKIP. It is my personal view that we should allow him to join. This is also the view of Lord Pearson, UKIP Member of the House of Lords, and many other Party members. UKIP has provisions in our Constitution which state that former members of certain proscribed parties and organisations are excluded from membership. The proscribed list currently includes the BNP, the National Front, and the English Defence League (EDL). Tommy Robinson was briefly a member of the BNP and was the founder of the EDL.
He explains his brief membership of the BNP as an uninformed youthful mistake. He further explains that the EDL, which he founded, was not a racist or far-right organisation under his leadership. He left it when it was infiltrated by elements he could not control. The UKIP Constitution also has a provision (4.4.1) that allows the rule to be set aside in individual cases in “exceptional circumstances”, subject to the decision of the Chairman and the National Executive Committee.
At the next NEC meeting on Sunday 18th November, I intend to propose the following motion:
“There should be a ballot of the UKIP members asking if they approve, Yes, or No, of Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (AKA Tommy Robinson) being allowed to join UKIP. This ballot should take place at the earliest opportunity, e.g. in the next edition of Independence Magazine. If a majority of Party members vote in favour of the proposition, then the Chairman and NEC will consider his application at the NEC meeting following the result of the ballot. They will then make the decision whether to waive the relevant rule or not based on a majority vote of the NEC.”
Let me say without reservation that I do NOT wish to remove the provision against former members of proscribed parties being allowed to join UKIP. I want to keep this blanket ban in place as it protects us from wholesale infiltration by unwanted elements. The reason that Lord Pearson and I, along with many others in the Party wish to waive the rule in Tommy Robinson’s favour is that we consider his case exceptional and unique. Lord Pearson and I believe that he would be an asset to the Party. He is a courageous campaigner on behalf of the victims of industrialised sexual slavery in the UK, and it is not an exaggeration to say that he has been persecuted by the state for the stand he has taken on certain issues. UKIP now has the possibility to transform into a mass movement, representing ordinary people. To do that we have to make some bold and sometimes difficult decisions. Whichever way the members vote I will abide by their democratic decision. This is YOUR Party, and you must make this decision; but, in my view, this is an issue that I think needs to be settled soon, one way or another.
I will inform you of the outcome of the motion following next Sunday’s NEC meeting.
Yours sincerely,
Gerard Batten MEP
UKIP Leader
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Well it shows even Farrage has his head screwed on
He will have 1 last go at removing the UKIP leader taking UKIP down the unelectable route
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John Buckley- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
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Yep, our Nige wants to “reclaim the party”, perhaps he has another Henry Bolton type in mind being his last successful recommendation for the top job?
Or perhaps he’ll consider waving aside his various money making ventures and stage a dramatic come back and rescue the party himself that he’s so obviously concerned about? No, probably not!
For all his faults, Gerard Batten is UKIP through and through and Mr Farage’s very much public outburst may well backfire on him. We’ll see!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Oh dear John such a short memory.
Sir Nigel got the in/out Referendum whilst Batten wants to go Paki bashing.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Howard
Well said
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Captain Haddock
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European Parliament voting intention:
BREX: 27%
LAB: 22%
CON: 15%
GRN: 10%
LDEM: 9%
UKIP: 7%
CHUK: 6%
via @YouGov, 15 - 16 Apr
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