Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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5 November 2009
08:3632455Have to say I agree with ROGER in part whilst we are all concerned over the latest issues, i would go along with a re assessment but not pulling out
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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5 November 2009
08:4132457I think we should first adopt Wyatt Earps ruling in Dodge City..ie...no guns to be carried by Afghans within the army compound.
We should not be distracted by the job in hand and continue to train the Afghans in order that they can patrol the streets and maintain law and order then our lads can hand over responsibility and return home.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
5 November 2009
09:2032461I agree. It would be a tragic waste if we pulled out before stabilising the region - those lads and lasses out there know why they are there, and we should support that. If we pull out before the region is self supporting and defensible we simply allow the taloban and al quaeda to fill the vacuum we would leave. Our streets would be even less secure than they were before. This is about the Afghans, for sure, but it is about our safety in the main.
Ross Miller
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6 November 2009
19:5732563Whilst I have every sympathy for the families of those killled and injured and the injured service personnel; this is frankly a fairly inevitable consequence of the last 30 odd years in Afghanistan.
Back when the Soviet Union put its troops in to Afghanistan at the request of the then Afghan government the USA through the offices of the CIA decided it needed to use all its means to take the Soviets on. To do this they sought out and supported the Taliban and encouraged Osama bin Laden to do likewise; this support included not only weapons, explosives and cash; but also CIA military advisers and trainers. Eventually, through this aid and assistance as well as the perseverance of the Taliban and their Arab allies the Soviets were worn down and pulled out. Unfortunately this left a vacuum that was filled by the Taliban and their radical interpretation of Islam, further they then having got rid of the Soviets turned their bile and venom on their previous paymasters. If the US had not funded the Taliban to fight the Soviets, would we be in this mess today? I do not know but I am guessing maybe not.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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6 November 2009
20:0632565will we in the west ever learn about the intricacies of life in the east?
the invincible redcoats came unstuck, then the might of the red army.
as pointed out above, the US created the monster of al qaeeda, then reap the harvest.
the afghans do not want western democracy, it is not part of their culture, especially when we westerners tell them that they should have it and be grateful for it.
just the same as us not wanting sharia law here.