Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Not when it comes to politics you wont Brian.
Brian Dixon
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so not to be biased i prusume you will be voting labour at the next election then barry.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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is it me,or has this thread entered the realms of the surreal?
this has only started happening since paul b purchased that beard.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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you said it howard - take more water with it Brian!
Ross Miller
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I think you all need to take a deep breath and get some perspective.
Frankly this is all pretty damn trivial, whilst technically you might well be right that the BBC follows a liberal agenda that is likely to lean more to the left than the right, this in many ways balances the generally right of centre leaning of much of our print media and much of the independent radio output.
Further there are many things of much greater import in the world at this time than this.
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Yes for years and years the Labour Party, prior to the Tony Blair revival, had been utterly condemned widely be every variation on media out there. The Murdoch press was so right wing as to make the Tories look like central groundists. This hammering went on day after day, it was well known that to win an election Labour had to fight two opponents... the Newspapers and the Conservatives. This was well debated in London amongst the chattering classes.
News at Ten was the big TV news programme then, with massive viewers, and again was biased in favour of the Tories. The BBC News was just a lowly shadow then. The BBC news has grown to be THE major news since then.
So with that came a shift in balance but as Ross said its a fair shift. Prior to that the media was too heavily Conservative.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Ross and PaulB - you are, from what you are saying, admitting that the BBC is in breach of their Charter.
Therefore they should no longer be funded by us taxpayers - simple. Take away the licence fee then as far as I am concerned it is free to pursue its left/liberal agenda and we would have no right to complain.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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Brian
As you know I have been calling for thre return of the Politics page, sadly thats not to be and we will see less posters.
Whilst Bazz has every right to post his tory head office stuff, we need to look at the overall survival of the forum.
Thats all my intentions have been, lets hope we can settle down soon. but i suspect not.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Well Keef we do seem to be seeing less posting. Im not sure if its a summer thing or if its the beginning of the end. But lets face it many of the members have an interest in politics, look at the number of posters on a political thread in comparison to a non political thread. If the forum dies out it will simply be because people are not posting....there are plenty of members just not bothering. There is ample room to start threads about anything at all.
If I open a Politics Page again..there will be 2 or 3 members in there..how is that a solution?? I dont get it...it will just make the main forum even less busy. What you are saying is if I shove BarryW in there suddenly we will all find shangri-la again. It wont happen...what you will get then are two fairly dead forums, not one deadish forum.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Keith - you just dont want to see your Government being critisised. You just keep on repeating the same old thing.
Look at the stats. 3 political threads in the top 20 appearing, thats all. The one with most posts is the BBC one and are among the most visited - see for yourself the stats are there. They are hardly dominating the forum and are certainly not putting off views or posters. If you are not interested in the issues discussed then you need not read those threads, simple. One has the highest number of posts and the third highest number of views of the 20.
Also did a quick count up - 12 people posted on the longest political thread and 16 on the longest non-political thread, not so much of a difference.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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Barryw
and Paulb
You will find that I have as iv said before the forum's interests at heart.
Baz
I don't care if you labour bash, i have issues with this government like you, but wot im more concerned about is the drop in posters since the politics page was removed.
People are switched off by it.
I'm happy to reply to BAZ when hes not sending out tory central office stuff.
and there are some issues we are probably close on, some which i have mentioned on here before today.
Maybe have a trial period politics page and if nowt changes then take it off again
just a suggestion.
At the end of the day im only a pleb, and go with wot people fink.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Then go along with it and stop whinging Keith.....
Incidentally, I do not 'send out tory central office stuff'. That is a figment of your imagination.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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i am inclined to agree with kieth here,to be honest its getting monotenus with post after post full of polical nonsence.it sucumes to a war of nutrion and this is wearing people down.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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BAZZ
You may be able to fool some people on central office stuff,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Keith, do curb your imagination. Some of us have our own views (not all of mine are agreeing with Conservative policy you should note) and are able to express them along with often complex ideas in writing.
Anyway back to the subject matter of this thread and on to something interesting.
The Newsnight panel I mentioned. Look at this.
Only one significant money-saving proposal was greeted enthusiastically by all the panel. That was for defence cuts and a distancing from America. This is a typically left wing.
All four of them rejected the TaxPayers' Alliance idea (actually now Conservative policy) that Regional Development Agencies be abolished.
Three of the four panellists backed the left wing Fabian Societies HIGHER inheritance tax proposals.
There you are. That panel was frankly a complete farce. Even a BBC Exec privately admitted to Tim Montgomerie that they had "F***** Up" !!!!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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it does seem a bit quiet on here lately.
there seems to be a few reasons, summer is one, people who join and do not contribute another, people who find the forum interesting to read, bit not enough to join in, people who join in order to promote one thing.
i doubt whether the "quality" of the political threads has much effect.
we all have subjects that interest more than others.
i would be astounded if the forum folded, we just need to make a bit more effort, post just a bit more while things are
quiet.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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HOWARD
Im gtrying to find a way to encourage more ways to post
no one can doubt people are switched off by politics
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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keith
there is not that much politics on here.
it is only you, barry and sid that deal in the party stuff.
i would like to see more current affairs discussed, but fear it would be hijacked by political folk who have a standard
stance ready in advance for each issue that arises.
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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Barry I did not admit that the BBC was in breach of its charter, I said that technically you might be right.
My personal belief is that any bias shown by the BBC is unintentional, by which I mean it is not a direct instruction of the board of governors or senior management but is a direct result of the liberal leaning of the staff they employ.
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While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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spitting hairs a bit there Ross....