Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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im not saying you have to kieth.with certain people on this forum who are anti every thing it makes me wonder why these people are left/right wing in the first place.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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I';m fairly even handed, im an out and out lefty and proud of it.
But able to listen to others point of view.
agree as iv said on here with many even ultra right wing stuff baz puts out now and again
k
Guest 664- Registered: 23 Mar 2008
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Phone in presenters are supposed to be neutral, Keith. Even the choice of topics is biased. Pretentious, off-the-peg salon metropolitan left-liberals.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Howard just to get back to the statement you made that commercial companies can do what they want with their money..of course, but I didnt talk at any point about the commercial channels. Anne Robinson is on the BBC!!
Keef there is no point saying yet again that posters wont post because BarryW is right wing. Exactly the same can be said about you sure...that you are left wing and posters wont post because you are left wing. Lets not worry about that gem of info anymore because if posters wont post because of it and youve been saying that for years then so be it...lets not worry about it.
You are left wing
BarryW is right wing
there isnt a huge right wing wave of posts on this forum
there are two regular Tories and two regular Labours
seems fair.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Ultra right wing stuff, me Keith. Just normal traditional right of centre
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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funny all this right and left wing stuff, most of us are a mixture of both.
take roger, i would consider him to be a strong right winger,but on law and order he goes for more education etc,
whilst i want everyone banged up for a first offence.
just as there are labour supporters pro capital punishment, there are blues totally against it.
all that left and right thinking does is nullify good debate on issues.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Good Posting PaulB
My grief with the BBC is not that they may or may not be biased ,I think I am old enough to make up my own mind, no, what worries me is how 'they' think it's acceptable to spend tax payers money and then complain that they have to justify their expenditure.It's taxpayers money we have a right to know how it's spent. End of.Period.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Thanks Howard
I am certainly not left-wing on anything, nor too far right-wing either.
I believe in small governmenmt and responsible people.
I don't like scroungers
I'm happy with people from all over the world - if they're decent people.
I believe crime should be punished properly.
I believe in much more too.
Roger
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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ROGER
It dont matter mate, you can be seen as right wing on some issues,
be proud mate if its wot yer believe in.
Benefits and how to solve them could be seen as right wing
but even tho im a real lefty I can still go along with and support the need to sort out ythe benefits system
As iv said on here b4 myself/baz and Roger aint polls apart (excuse the pun)
on the benefits system, just differ a little on how to solve it.
Paulb
my postings are not about left or right, its about politics in general, most people are switched off by politics
but its your ball game paulb as you say paulb your the BOSS
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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As Keith told me once I am left of centre,with left wing tendancies and the only blue in my blood is my football team Everton
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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there we have it, left wing in one corner, right wing in another.
all good knockabout stuff, who wins or loses though?
the play area on my patch has now been defunct for approx 6 years, other than sheila amos, everyone else that has posted on this subject has made it a political issue.
once the party politics stuff is dropped, maybe then people can get together and work out a solution
i suspect i will be in my box by then.
Sid Pollitt
On the Daily Politics show on BBC2 last week Nick Robinson said that he thought the Tories were [gambling on] attacking the man rather than the policies. Robinson is the beeb's chief political chap and a [former?] Tory party member so is maybe unbiased or confused, either way most would probably agree he mainly tells it as it is.
I think that we are going endure a year-long election campaign that will be either nasty and personal, or a hard fought and fair struggle. The trouble is that it will probably be both, depending on your point of view.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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I dont know, perhaps the BBC is a tad left wing, a tad radical in its approach, but I think many welcome that including me. If you want to see the opposite side of this, tune into ITV who are clearly biased in favour of the Conservatives, of that there can be no doubt. One reflects back on their coverage of the troubles in Northern Ireland , that used to get right on my.....
ITV, they are clearly the channel of big business conservatism and unionism. So I suppose in a way all sides are taken care of.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i suppose the argument would be that we do not pay for itv up front like we do with the bbc..
although we do pay for the price of the sponsors and advertisers products.
i must be the only one that does not see any great political bias in any of the channels.
for information, other than the papers, i prefer bbc news 24, don't have to wait for commercials to finish to find out something.
the world service on the radio used to be very good, cutbacks over the years have meant that we do not get many reports from foreign national journalists from their own countries.
DT1- Location: Dover
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There is clearly a lefty bias but then we also have to endure things like the Queen's Christmas speech, so I suppose it all balances out.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Thanks DT1, but what has one got to go with the other ?
Roger
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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PaulB - The BBC is paid for by taxpayers and its Charter requires it to be balanced in its news and current affairs.
It has been forced to openly admit a couple of years ago that it has an inbuilt pro-EU bias. Now, dont get me wrong, I would not characterise the BBC bias as exactly pro-Labour, but it certainly has a liberal/left bias displayed very clearly, which reflects in its reporting and that is of help to Labour. It does recruit almost exclusively from the Guardian after all.
I disagree about ITV but I do believe that Sky may well have a slight bias to the right. Howard - tv advertising helps boosts mass sales that reduce the unit cost and in that way the cost of tv advertising is absorbed. You cannot just look at an 'extra cost' for tv advertising added to products and think that is the cost of commercial tv, it just dont work that way. All business must market themselves and have a marketing budget commensurate with their businesses, without that they would not make sales and would fold. As I say volume sales bring down per unit costs and if tv was not used to generate high volume sales you would end up paying more for those goods and services.
Even a small business like mine has to have a marketing budget, in my case its £4500 pa, without which I could not operate.
DT1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 15 Apr 2008
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Yes Roger it does. There is hardly anything left-wing or egalitarian about monarchy, in fact the whole terminology of 'left-wing/right-wing' come from the period before the French Revolution with the political left wanting to get rid of monarchy/Bourgeoisie.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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But, DT1, HMQ is above politics and has never put a foot wrong, what is wrong is to introduce her into a political discussion in the way have.
Whatever student debating point you are trying to make it is nothing to do with the political bias of the BBC.
Sid Pollitt
Maybe the Beeb is trying to reflect public opinion and an element of being in touch by having a liberal/left bias. I think that the real bias is show by BarryW's comment that it recruits almost exclusively from the Guardian. I'm sure you dont hyave to be a Guardian reader to buy it or apply for jobs advertised in it.
If in the unlikely event of a Tory government being elected can we expect three years in, after they've created more unemployment, the nasty party ministers will be sitting around foaming at the mouth and shouting at their civil servants to get someone in but dont place the ad in the Guardian but in a non biased paper [like the Times maybe].
It is not that the BBC or Guardian are biased, it's that they dont like you.
