howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Button wrote:I see no reason to doubt that Banksy's virtue matches his industry. On the other hand, what can one expect from someone who doesn't use a real name?
Gotcha, it's been you all along Bottom, I always suspected there was some talent hidden behind your exterior.
Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
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It was darn windy up on that scaffold and then B&Q ran out of EU blue.
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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yes button
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Rather sadly the Express have read the situation as badly as the Mercury which has led to demands that money goes directly to the Kelly Turner fund. I hope her parents have not had hopes unduly raised because of this.
Guest 1831- Registered: 1 Sep 2016
- Posts: 395
This Building was the original Shakespeare Hotel.
It has a place in the History of Dover and should most certainly be saved.
Of its type, it is unique.
Too many of this Towns' buildings get neglected, and then rot.
Next in line will be Cambridge Terrace. That is following the usual pattern of neglect, shabbiness and then destroyed.
As Paul Watkins has said on the Crypt Thread.
"It is part of Master Planning scheme being developed. "
Guest 1831- Registered: 1 Sep 2016
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Sorry to say that this is yet another daft petition on that website, for over a decade the townspeople have demanded the demolition of the building by DDC. Finally an approximate date is set and then the artwork arrives on a privately owned building prompting the populace to say that they suddenly do the opposite.
Does anyone think that the "Banksy" will stay when the owners can earn more out of it?
Button- Location: Dover
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I think the case has yet to be made that the building is 'unique' and I'm not sure what it is that should be preserved - the building, the artwork on it or the sweep from the town to the seafront (which inevitably would mean either underpass or overbridge).
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Guest 1266- Registered: 8 May 2014
- Posts: 381
If DDC bought the Banksy building and used it as a catalyst for a creative incubator area for the arts and small business it could be far more beneficial to the town than DTIZ will ever be.
I have always argued that a bland shopping mall will not help regenerate Dover.
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Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,226
The building itself is not architecturally meritorious and nothing special in the history of Dover, i would love to see the Banksy kept but at the end of the day it is owned by the building owner, far more important is that the crypt is preserved and ideally made publicly accessible in whatever future plan our great and good concoct for the area.
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Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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The building we SHOULD have kept was the Dover Stage. I wrote on another thread that nothing of architectural merit had been built in Dover District post-war. I was wrong. There was - and we knocked it down.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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The painting on that wall is not going to last long,having now looked at it up close,it is already flaking off some of the ladder already gone.
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
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Having spent some time now researching and reading up on the area, it should be noted that the building in question was never the Shakespeare hotel the hotel was around the corner the other side of the Crypt. It did later takeover the crypt and had rooms and a restaurant in that building though most of the rooms remained private flats.
https://doverhistorian.com/2014/06/07/bench-street-and-the-crypt-tragedy/
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Yes a lot of that history I know because of my age and was in Dover from 1942 myself.
Guest 1033- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
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Its just another old dump, now with a bit of graffiti on the wall, whats the fuss about ?
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I take it then sir you could do better.post75
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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#75,estimated price of that bit of graffiti is 1 million quid.
Guest 1033- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
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Vic, I wouldn't say I could do better, but I also wouldn't graffiti a wall with a half arsed late attempt at trying to be trendy.
Brian, you may agree its worth a million quid, but all that means is that you would have to find a rich idiot to buy it.
To normal people of normal intelligence, its a valueless daub on the wall of a building.
Don't believe the hype.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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some thing tells me you don't like it,may be if picaso or turner done it you would like it.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Brian Dixon wrote:some thing tells me you don't like it,may be if picaso or turner done it you would like it.
Talking of great artists, we don't hear much about that Rolf Harris anymore.
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