howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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where do you suggest they build these houses other than farthingloe debbie?
Guest 967- Registered: 9 Jun 2013
- Posts: 28
Well how about the 10 other more suitable sites howard x
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
where in dover are they debbie?
Guest 967- Registered: 9 Jun 2013
- Posts: 28
The man from cgi failed to disclose the whereabouts of these sites just that there was deemed 10 sites that are better suited for the development. X
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
Debbie,i dislike negativety yours and alexs posts seem to dismiss every option as a bad one.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
howard,i agree with what you say.i would like to see dover grow and prosper to.
Guest 967- Registered: 9 Jun 2013
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I am negative because I dont think it should happen in the same way that you only have positive things brian! We are all entitled to our opinion
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Most of you are too young or not living in Dover but all that was there was a farm I was always up and around there as a boy. in the late 1940s and 50s .
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
so we agree to disagree ok.
Guest 967- Registered: 9 Jun 2013
- Posts: 28
Why thank you vic all I get from my husband is how old I am (I am only 34!) And yes brian we will thats what makes the world interesting
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,803
A small point but if the same attitude expressed by some had been applied in the not to distant past I suspect a number of forum members would not be living where they are now as their homes would not have been built.
Things have to change or Dover will stagnate even further and without new housing where will our children and grandchildren live. There might be a few empty properties available in town but nowhere near enough for our future needs so if not Farthingloe where would the objectors prefer the new estates to be built.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
funny you should say that jan, someone said that to me today.
we have citadel road and knights templar up the heights and all those streets in maxton stretching back from the folkestone road.
in recent years westbury height and crescent have been built.
in fact all around dover green spaces have been built on at some point meaning others have lost their vistas.
Guest 944- Registered: 16 May 2013
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Farthingloe was considered and rejected as being suitable for residential development in DDC's own core strategy. The ONLY reason it is now proposed to build on it is because that is where CGI own and they want to make as much money as possible on it.
But there is a much bigger issue here that goes beyond Dover. George Osborne and his pals are desperate for a magic solution to get the economy out of the doldrums. So they've hit on the idea of relaxing planning controls, and hoping a construction boom will kickstart the economy. But there are tedious things like AONB's, conservation areas etc that keep getting in the way. If the proposal at Farthingloe goes through (and expect Eric Pickles will make sure it does) it will set a precedent and send out a message to every council in the land; don't worry if you got tricky planning policies, approve what you like and uncle Eric will sign it off. What do people think will happen to the English landscape then? Short term thinking will lead to permanent destruction of swathes of our countryside. That's why I quit the Tories.
And one more thing; after WWII some towns went all out for development, pulled down troublesome old buildings and put up nice new concrete ones. Other places decided to look after their heritage. Which ones are most prosperous now?
Come on Dover, think long term, a good environment (in and out of town) = prosperity in the long term. Let the developers loose = Burlington House.
Andrew Richardson
Guest 967- Registered: 9 Jun 2013
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Can I firstly say that none of the building will destroy my view so please do not think I am that shallow that this is the reason I oppose this! Yes my house probably shouldn't have been built but it has and I can not be held responsible for them as they was built before I was born. And like I have said before there are lots of empty properties including the large one at the bottom of my hill which has not been used for years ( sorry I can not remember what it is called ) and can I ask Jan and Howard where you would stop building, the cliffs, the castle the park? How much green land and history must we sacrifice?
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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# 213......para one ......correct
para two......correct.............
para three.....correct......
para four.......correct
Dover is so desperate for a kick start because DTIZ ....failed ........but this is not the answer........
Guest 944- Registered: 16 May 2013
- Posts: 57
Also probably worth mentioning that my dad has had at least one approach from a property developer saying they could get planning permission for houses on our side of the road (Little Farthingloe). That's what they are like, already seeing £ signs where the rest of us see green fields and woods. If CGI houses go up, how hard do people think it would be for a developer who promised, I don't know, some investment in local heritage and amenities, to persuade DDC to give permission for a load more houses on our side of the road? And that's the end of the valley as open countryside. Then the battles will start to build on the bits further up the valley and so it will go on.
Only think preventing it is me and my family's desire to look after one little bit of Kent that we are rather fond of. So if any developers read this and think Little Farthingloe has potential for loads more houses, please do us all a favour and go look somewhere else (like the moon).
Andrew Richardson
Guest 944- Registered: 16 May 2013
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# 215...thanks Reg. I know we didn't always see eye to eye in the past, although if I remember rightly sometimes we did!
Andrew Richardson
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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If you crank up the population to 70 + million
More will need to be built all over , but it must have a mix of proper good jobs
A hotel employing cheap eastern European labour just doesn't do it
If you're going to expand go for it big using proper development investors.
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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Regarding properties in town above shops which are not being used at the moment: I don't really personally consider those place as really ideal living quarters for, say, a young family. That idea is really just a short term desperate measure instead of investing in building houses. I would prefer not to live where my children would be woken up in the early hours after kicking out time. Not that some people are quite happy living in those flats they are not a long term solution only a temporary band aid.
Planning rules change over the years according with the needs and demands of the market. Perhaps the existing planning laws are wrong. Actually no they are wrong no question leading to land banking, sacred cows like greenfield sites and talk of our countryside being destroyed by more housing development.
ANOB is merely an acronym. It is rather meaningless in some ways as one persons idea of outstanding natural beauty can differ greatly from someone elses.
In the same way that some herberts think wind farms and solar parks as glorious and romantic and at one with mother earth others with better taste see them merely as cash cows, ugly and a blight.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,860
Well there are still a few doubters
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