Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,937
howard mcsweeney1 wrote:So upmarket Deal celebrates a dirt cheap supermarket coming there as M & S chooses to turn their nose up at the town.
I really can't be bothered answering that Howard.
In passing, loads of our local Councillors were outside M&S Deal on Saturday morning 'protesting' about the closure (cue Photo Opportunity before May elections).
At least when Abbie Hoffman and the Yuppies tried to raise the Pentagon they has the excuse that most of them had ingested 'acid'!
I honestly don't think they quite understand how things are irrevocably changing .................
"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,802
I simply can not understand why anyone with sufficient funds to buy a place in Deal chooses to live there when there are so many lovely areas in this part of Kent that are preferable.
Having lived in Deal in the past I much prefer the Dover area as it is not so snooty and up its-self, the only part that is nicer than here is the seafront.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,018
I agree with Bob.I was against The White Cliffs experience.Right about the A20 coming through from Folkestone ,ruining the lives of Aycliffe residents and cutting the sea front from the the Town.Why can’t people see the bigger picture.
Yes The Grand at Scarborough was good in its hay day.My brother in law law stayed there with his family .whilst his Brother My late husband and our family stayed in a rented cottage in Pickering.He had to borrow from us as his money ran out .Those were the days .
Always look at the bigger picture.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Captain Haddock wrote:I really can't be bothered answering that Howard.
At least when Abbie Hoffman and the Yuppies tried to raise the Pentagon they has the excuse that most of them had ingested 'acid'!
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But you did Bob so I will return the compliment and not mention that you said raise rather than rase.
3 out of 10 see me after class.
Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,028
Personally I like semaphore signals.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,937
howard mcsweeney1 wrote:But you did Bob so I will return the compliment and not mention that you said raise rather than rase.
3 out of 10 see me after class.
Rubbish! It was raise as in 'from the ground' rather than rase as in 'to the ground'.
(Though having looked it up I now see Abbie actually used the word 'levitate'!)
How many times do I have to tell you, that like Cassandra I am ALWAYS right.
God knows how but I actually remember the sixties a lot better than I ought to ....
Anthem of the Sun now playing on headphones.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/how-rag-tag-group-acid-dropping-activists-tried-levitate-pentagon-180965338/"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,696
Yes we need to encourage more people with decent levels of disposable income to move to Dover, but we also need to provide affordable housing for local people. The two are not and should not be incompatible.
We do not need another hotel, we already have plenty of rooms (Ramada, Best Western, Travellodge & a recently extended Premier Inn, plus numerous guest houses and Air B'n'Bs) so the purported civic amenity of a hotel at the Western heights is a myth, as is any community benefit from this proposed development once cost overruns have eaten their profit and the Isreali's come knocking for their return on investment.
I moved here, rather than Deal or Folkestone (the former just too long a journey to my work pre HS1, the latter two towns pretending to be one and hating each other with a vengeance) as I felt then and still do that Dover has so much going for it and so much potential. Sadly that potential remains unrealised due to a succession of incompetent councils at District level.
This development does nothing to realise that potential unlike the proposed development at Burgoyne Barracks which will have a good mix of housing stock catering for a wide range of owner occupiers in a well thought through and landscaped site that supports not only the Fort but also local amenity spaces.
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Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,028
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,937
Excellent Button, and good price point.
Travel Lodge - 4 Nights - two adults - £166.00 (108 rooms)
Leaf £200.60 (68 rooms)
Best Western - Dover Marina £304.00
Certainly worth the <£10 per night price difference to get away from yet another perfectly acceptable but rather standardised 'chain' offer like Travel Lodge. Big enough to have economies of scale without being so large you feel just another number. Plus 'free' wi-fi which should be a 'given' and really annoys in Travel Lodge where it is an extra. Hope it does/is doing well.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,018
Not many responses yet .Public always good at Facebook but hardly ever write a letter.Too late after the event .
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
I think most people fully expect the plans to be rejected Sue, Furthermore many feel that the officers and planning committee don't take their views into account. The proposed demolition of the POW pier was met with a vast number of posts giving reasons why it shouldn't happen with just a handful supporting it and some of them had done work for DHB.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,018
I always took notice of the public response.
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
- Posts: 2,158
I sense a much greater public awareness of this application this time round and the reasons behind it. People aren't that stupid. I fully expect the publicity war to starting hotting up over the next few weeks.
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,696
The problem is that the majority of comments on planning applications don't provide valid planning reasons against development hence the feeling that they are ignored.
This particular proposal is where a decent local paper would be properly representing the views od the public, sadly we don't have one here
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Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,860
bit worried here,,,,,, I appear to agree with poster 248
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,018
Had to go back and read it Keith.Do you infer back handers?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Keith has typed in the wrong post number Sue, I cannot imagine my comments in 2013 apply now. My guess is that he meant 548.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,018
Thanks Howard
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,860
what happened there? lol
of course it was 548 lol
This company appears not to be listening
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
- Posts: 2,158
The land at Farthingloe has never been part of DDC's core strategy. It has never appeared on the map of proposed areas. It has passed through the hands of various speculators since being disposed of by Eurotunnel Developments Ltd who acquired it as part of the transfer of assets from TML.
The current application simply re-presents the one dismissed by the Supreme Court in 2017. Their judgment may be summarised (inter alia) as stating that permission may not be granted for development on an AONB without adequate justification of the economic benefits and that the land was greenfield not brownfield.
There is a strong suspicion that the current Tory led council, having already unnecessarily spent about £250,000 of taxpayer's money appealing this case , will once again pressure their own planners to approve it in its unjustified and grossly inappropriate size and magnitude.
Now more and more locals are beginning to ask why. It's the old story - cui bono?
Ross has described very effectively what many people feel in #548.
