howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
went past last afternoon and the area looks very jaded.
jack's must have closed a year ago.
not sure how long this has been empty.
haven't seen this open for some time.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
- Posts: 2,226
Atina House part let to a Health Group Howard.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
i thought it was part let paul as lights were on in one part, used to be a training company there at one time.
this one puzzles me as a lot of work was done on it in the build up to the olympic torch but nothing since.
part of the dtiz i believe.
pier 3 which sadly closed before christmas.
Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,478
Does DTIZ go over the river?
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
- Posts: 2,226
No DTIZ finishes other side of Dour. Bench St is a different scheme. It is the key link up to Waterfront scheme delayed by DHB privatisation saga.
Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,478
What is the scheme for Bench Street? Are there any details?
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
- Posts: 2,226
Connecting Bench St area to DHB area around De Bradelei without using underpass. Re-developing land assets of derelict buildings/property fronting Townwall St. & parts of Bench St.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
best that we don't hold our breath, the port situation shows no sign of reaching a conclusion.
Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,478
Just an idea really, not a plan?
Is it all Godden owned?
Would it be after DTIZ?
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,856
about time the DHB govt fiasco was sorted
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
- Posts: 8,664
#7, Paul I am dead against that bridge. It represents a passive acceptance that the A20 will always cut the town in two. For what it's worth I am also dead against the cable car, just a mechanism for tourist dollars to bypass the town centre.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Judith Roberts- Registered: 15 May 2012
- Posts: 637
I agree with Peter the cable car idea is a ridiculous waste of money and counterproductive in the regeneration of Dover town. I can't see any advantage in a bridge compared to the existing underpass. I would love to think otherwise, but I think the A20 will bisect the town for my lifespan and beyond.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
just along from there in market square this has been up for sale for some time, doesn't seem to be open either.
Bob Whysman
- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
- Posts: 1,932
It's so sad to see so many empty properties in Dover now, hopefully, newly arrived Europeans will add their mark to the eclectic mix of the run down areas and breathe new life into them.
It just needs optimism for the future which we seem to have lost in the UK and which the majority heading for this Country have plenty of. They are looking for a better future, we tend to dwell too much in the past nowadays waiting for something to happen.
Do nothing and nothing happens.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
I think you find its called "apathy" bob,most counclers have there looking backwards.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
It is indeed sad Bob to see these empty properties. Lack of spending power, mixed with low foot-fall is the main problem, not so much the car-parking charges which (in Dover) are amongst the lowest in Kent. Business rates and rents are also too high.
A strategy needs to be created - by someone who will be taken notice of.
Roger
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
- Posts: 8,664
You will find the Ellie on Fleurets website. Asking price £200,000 for the freehold. (+VAT, as it's no longer a going concern). Rateable value £24,000, business rates payable therefore something like £11,250 What would you say if your council tax was 6.5% of the value of your house? That would mean £6,500 a year for a 2-bed terrace in the Clarendons.
Puts in perspective what small business owners have to put up with; no wonder the pub business is disappearing up its own tailpipe.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,798
I should also point out that the Business Rates are just for the actual business side of the building possibly not the whole site any private living area is also liable to Council Tax.
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
- Posts: 8,664
Yes true Jan.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
a planning application has now gone in for change of use of the old school outfitters to being a take away/restaurant.
