Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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13 September 2008
08:416055DDC Press Release****
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MAJOR RECYCLING NEWS - SERVICE EXPANSION TO INCLUDE CARDBOARD AND PLASTIC BOTTLES
A major expansion of the recycling service from DDC is bringing fantastic news for the future - with an expansion of existing collections to include cardboard and plastic bottles and an extension of the green waste scheme to include another 13,000 homes.
Household refuse collections will remain on a weekly basis and recycling collections will remain fortnightly. The expansion means that from mid November, households will be able to add plastic bottles and cardboard to their fortnightly kerbside collections. A special blue bag will be delivered to households, with an information pack giving details of the scheme. The new blue bag will be used for cardboard and paper, while the existing black box will be used for plastic bottles, cans, and glass.
To make rounds more efficient, the Council is looking at collection days across the district, and may have to change collection days for households. This will apply to refuse, recycling and green waste collections. Further information will be delivered to residents across the district in October.
This major expansion also follows news that recycling for the district hit an all time high in June with a rate of 28%.
Cllr Nicholas Kenton, Cabinet Member for Environment, Waste and Planning said: "This exciting news represents a major expansion of the service from DDC. We thank everyone for the increasing use of existing services, and we urge householders across the district to keep recycling and to add plastic and cardboard to their kerbside recycling, to help us work together to continue to improve the way we protect the environment for the future."
For more information on waste and recycling, please log onto the DDC website at
www.dover.gov.uk or call our customer services on (01304) 872428.
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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13 September 2008
10:486058Well this is good news and its also good to see that recycling has gone up by 28% in June.That figure is sure to increase with these new initiatives. The only downside appears to be that it may cause a change to our regular 'bin day'. That looks prone to fluidity. How that will affect people I dont know??
Guest 679- Registered: 7 Sep 2008
- Posts: 162
13 September 2008
17:126068Surely DDC should be concentrating on completing stage 1 before embarking on stage 2.....I'm sure I can't be the only person that has never received a black recyling box?
Subsequently can we be assured that this is not happening?
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Earth/UK_household_waste_dumped_in_India/articleshow/3457003.cmsI know a million ways to always pick the wrong thing to say
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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14 September 2008
08:486072Jeannette
Your right, I'm a great believer in the recycl.ing but it was messed up in this road many times over,
got off to a real bad start,
didnt get boxes out on time
start date\didnt happen
some boxes not collected
still have\some of these teething probs but local do keep at it, unfortunatly cos of the earlier probs some locals givn up
on the council in general another issue that keeps coming up is the grass cutting, why, when they have cut it, do they leave the cut grass and not take it with them?
it blows everywhere and gets into your house, you walk it in yor house why cant they pick it up when they done
Terry Nunn
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,302
14 September 2008
13:176083I think we've had a black box for about two years. It was a bit of a struggle to get it going. If I care to look it up I can give you the exact chronology but here's a condensed version.
Letter from DDC, we are to get a black box "in the next two weeks" hurrah!
No box.
I enquire as to where it has got to. Ah, been a delay.
Another letter, same as before, this time I have a sticky calendar showing me when it will be collected.
No box.
I enquire again. Should have had one apparently. I can collect one however.
I go to collect one. DDC in a state of chaos. Reception being rebuilt. I wait for half and hour. Sorry no boxes left, a queue jumper got the last one, they have some in Castle Street. Go there, wait for another half hour, get fed up go home.
Go down the following morning, join the queue waiting outside at 08.50. Collect my box. Yippee!
Put it out on due day, not collected. Ah, perhaps I've got the wrong date, but no it is right.
Two weeks later I put it out again. As it happens I am across the road when the SITA lorry drives past without stopping.
I email DDC. They tell me in blunt terms that it is a kerbside collection, and as my box wasn't on the kerb it wasn't collected.
I then wait and the next time that the lorry comes past and I photograph it. As the road is narrow the lorry has to mount the pavement. Clearly nothing can be left on the kerb.
I send picture to DDC showing that I can only leave the box (and my dustbin with which there has never been a problem) within my property boundary. I receive no reply but my box was collected next time.
Incidentaly, I did make a comment about queue jumping to Anne at reception when I first went to collect the box but the following day she denied speaking to me.
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Terry Nunn- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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14 September 2008
14:106086Actually, I got so carried away that I forgot a point. OK, so I understand about plastic bottles and that it costs more in environmental terms to shift them from here to wherever, but what about cardboard?
Why haven't I been able to put it out in the black box? When I go to the tip, sorry transfer station, both paper and card go in the same place, if ultimately that is it's fate why couldn't the bin men collect it?
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Guest 679- Registered: 7 Sep 2008
- Posts: 162
14 September 2008
15:446088Well, I think I'm quite glad I haven't got a black box in that case! I drop most of my recycling off at the point near Netto's & it isn't that much of a hardship but it would seem I am making more of an effort than those that just have to pop it all outside their houses.
Going back to that link though, I would be extremely hacked off if something I had taken the trouble to recycle turned back up on my doorstep which had been found in a rubbish tip in India!
I know a million ways to always pick the wrong thing to say
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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14 September 2008
17:396093When first introduced to Aycliffe some houses were not included, being bungalows for some of our older residents, because it would mean the refuse collectors walking up a hill. Let us hope that stage two resolves the outstanding problems with stage one.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
14 September 2008
19:486099the garden waste collection is the funniest of all.
i remember wading through a lecture onDDC website about how i should take more responsibility about garden waste.
it must all go into green bags to be collected on a certain day.
so i typed my street name in to find out when the big day was.
guess what?
no collection service my area.
Sarah
15 September 2008
13:206124This is a bit of an e mail my aunt in Canada sent to me. I'm sure she won't mind me putting it on here as she always said she appreciates comments! Can you imagine the state of affairs if our council ran a recycling scheme on this scale?
Every week we need to put out our blue recycling bins, these will contain paper, cardboard, yogurt pots, cans, tins, jars, and aluminum foil. Since the beginning of April a new system has been introduced. A green cart standing about 2ft high, this comes with a smaller lidded container that can be stowed away under your kitchen sink. Both these need to be lined with compostable bag liners or other acceptable linings that are also compostable. The smaller cart is used to throw all unwanted food away, used paper towels and rolls, houseplants and used paper food packaging. I have to be honest, I thought that this new program was going to be time consuming and messy. Sure you have to re-educate yourself and the family, knowing what can and can't be thrown into the kitchen container and general waste. But ultimately we have had to make this change, and here is why; only every other week will waste management collect general household waste and they will only take a maximum of six bags per collection. However the changes seemed to have been a hit with most residents, the first week the garbage collection took over two days to collect in one area because so many people responded positively.
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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15 September 2008
20:266134Chris I agree with what you said,I have had lots of complaints from people in Tower Hamlets that they can't recycle because of the hills,or they are not on the main road,or the roadway is too small to go down,the binmen manage it alright though,Just come back from the Yorkshire Dales where Richmondshire Council have a 40% recycling amount.Dover is less than 27% yet here we are mainly in Towns while the Dales are remote.Still I am sure Cllr Nick Kenton has got it in hand.(not)
Recycling has been a mess in his District and is not being taken seriously enough.The black boxes are also too small and being open the contents is usually spead around the street.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
15 September 2008
20:416135And idiots throw rubbish in them.........
Sid Pollitt
4 November 2008
17:088632The recycling day in my street has been changed from a Thursday to Monday under the new scheme. I put out my bottles and papers last week thinking that it was the last of my Thursday colections but the lorry didnt turn up. Ah well, so I put out my black box and my big blue bag yesterday, before 7am as requested. By late afternoon as the recycling was still on the pavement we took it back in. At SIX PM the lorry was spotted in the next street so out went then box and bag again and it was collected at 6.08pm. Ridiculous.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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4 November 2008
17:358633The message did not get around about collection date changes.
Everyone in our street has put out the rubbish today and it is still lining the street. We checked and it has changed to a Thursday collection...
Oh, Sid - I initially welcomed the black box collection and the first time we put it out at 7am and it was not collected, did the same two weeks later, still not.
I later found out that they were arriving in our street well before 7am and are still doing so.
I put my rubbish out in the mornings so the gulls/foxes etc dont get at it overnight and I will not get up specially early to put out a black box. So I have not participated. Wonder if it will be any different with the change. I will give it a go again but if they still collect the recycling before 7am it goes in the normal bin.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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4 November 2008
20:268640i never received any notification.
no wonder my rubbish bags(along with everybody else's) have been outside since monday morning.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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4 November 2008
22:428647The DDC site says:
"New Recyling Collections
Thank you to everyone who has recycled with our new scheme this week, we have had a fantastic response. Unfortunately due to the volume of recycling material the collections are still taking place. If you have not had a collection within 24 hours of your due date please telephone us on 01304 872428. "
You can't blame them - it is a total unknown how the response will be. If they overmanned people would moan about the people with no work to do, if they undermanned they would also not win !
Been nice knowing you :)
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,018
4 November 2008
23:188648Yes I think they were over whelmed as some residents had saved plastic and cardboard for months .Much more than a black box or a blue bag .In our close we all received the information but still some people put their rubbish out on the wrong day .
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
4 November 2008
23:308650nothing was said about normal rubbish though.
the streets around here are strewn with rubbish(even more than normally) due to people thinking that the date of standard collection not being changed.
Terry Nunn- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,302
5 November 2008
07:448657Three leaflets came through the door telling us about recycling and the new collection day. Perhaps most peole just thought "More rubbish", (joke there somewhere) and binned them.
However, I did notice that on my early morning dog patrol (nice to chat to you John) some were left on the doorstep, to blow away presumably.
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,018
5 November 2008
09:278660It was quite clear I received a letter and three leaflets .One with a chap on the front with litter stating the refuse date had been changed and stating day and date .A second leaflet explaining about green wasre with calendar of collection dates and a third leaflet mainly blue explaining about the new scheme and a calendar showing collection day .These leaflets were very colourful and well designed .
