Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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ROGER
Whilst i WOULDN'T want to tell you howe to riun your life, or have any disrespect for Sue.
The job with the CofC has moved on, and OK if Barryw is such a friend of yours he will fight to get you re instated, but Iv not heard him say he is to do that, nor has he said he disagrees's with he commerce decisiuon to remove you.
Your starting to sound like SUE does at times , me me me which does you no justice
Now back on the subject of the market, you don't have to be in a paid position to influence others, you still are a District cllr(i'm not aware yoyu resigned?)
And influences can be made in that direction.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Fair comment Keith, I'll try not to make any more comments on that subject.
Was you saying "wouldn't want to tell you how to ruin your life" above, or just an extra "i" in there ?
Roger
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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Sorry ROGER
me getting carried away(some wish I would lol)
just saying you still have a lot of influence a a District clltr.
I do realise how you feel ref C ofC
BUT it started to move awa from the market subject, which Ia personally think to be a good idea, whoever does it.
I think its fair to say everyone knows you work hard
and you have support on here in the main ref c of c
hope iv not gone over the top
trying to help
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Hold on a minute there Keith .Im rarely in the public eye these days and as far as Im concerned see other thread which you are prolonging have no interest in who is Mayor .We all know its political .
Now back to the subject of this thread .I wasnt going to post on it but I understand completly what Paul is saying .
Im a good mate of Rogers however like he disagreed with me over the screen I do not think an introduction of a Saturday market will be at all helpful .
It will take the trade from a very fragile shopping centre
You can only spend your money once so if if you purchase meat,fish ,vegetables on a Saturday you are hardly likely to go to the shops which we already have in town .
The Market will not be a glorious resurrection of Dover Centre ,like Ron Dennis said to me years ago .He was not a Knight in White Armour coming to rescue Dovers economy .
What we all need to do is to support what we have .Fight for the business rates to be reduced ,clean up the empty shops etc .
Im now off to Canterbury where you can get clothes which suit the older woman .Peacocks ,Dot Perkins you can keep . .
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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Without taking sides here, it looks like two completely opposite opinion`s on this matter, and it will be very interesting to see what the outcome will be. Only one way to find out.
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Guest 684- Registered: 26 Feb 2009
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Hi,
I don't purport to be an economist. I just want to see our communities thrive. Hippyish vision, perhaps, but I make no apologies for that.
Andy
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
leaving the polotics behind how long will the market last.going on past experiance i say no more than 13 weeks maximum.
Unregistered User
To you all.
Personally I like markets.
I just enjoy a rounded debate not a one sided one.
This is not something I am or will be involved with so I thought you ought to have the benefit of another opinion.
It is not a political or Tory opninion just a debating point.
I'll be interested to see the debate when another retail outlet goes.
Me, I'm all for competition.
You see Roger has highlighted another element of competition with the open/close Xmas shops.
Why would anyone want to take the risk of being a small High St. retailer.
No such thing as consumer loyalty for the majority!!
Watty
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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Lovely warmish sunny day today, had to be out with the camera.
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Thanks for the photos Colin qand your views Paul.
It is because those market stalls are here, that those people are in Dover; if we didn't have them, those people would be shopping in Morrisons and maybe never come into the town centre.
Canterbury has a very busy and successful market on two days a week and that doesn't upset their retailers; I'm sure they'd be upset if their market wasn't operating.
Roger
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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When did it change that competition is now seen as a threat rather than as a challenge? Everyone has different tastes and most of us like to vary our menu's so could it not be looked upon as a chance to promote a wider choice in products available?
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
Chris you are right of course, however, some of us are not convinced the local retailers economy is strong enough to withstand an onslaught from outside. There is some concern that we may get the opposite of what we all hope for. It is right to express those concerns.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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It is right that there should be a full set of views on this and I welcome them.
I would like to say that if the expected footfall is as high as it could/should be, then that increase in footfall will spill over into greater business for the shops.
Many shops are in a parlous state now, without a market, so why not go for it ? As I said earlier, many people don't come into Dover now, they go to Canterbury, Ashford, Folkestone or Westwood Cross.
We must give people a reason to come into Dover; we must give the businesses confidence that things will get better and not give up.
Now that I have no further influence in this, I hope that who ever does, keeps a good standard of stalls and doesn't bring in any new fruit and veg stalls as we have 8 already.
Roger
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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ROGER
When did resign as a Cllr(no influence) ???
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I wasn't saying as a Councillor Keith, but as Dover Businesses Support Manager.
There are meetings I would go to as a Councillor and ones I would go to as a member of a (business) body - ie DBS Manager.
Roger
Alec Sheldon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 18 Aug 2008
- Posts: 1,036
Like Marek I am originally from the North West, Manchester in fact, where we had several markets on different days of the week. The best one for me was at Ashton under Lyne, a small town not far from where I lived. It was a good day out, plenty of stalls, rides for the kids and a great atmosphere with the stall holders shouting out the banter to buy their wares.
The local shops were still thriving as well, why should Dover be any different ?.
Before anyone says "why don't you go back there then" I have to say I love Dover, warts and all, and have been down here for forty years. It has given me a good living, working on the ferries and the Tunnel construction, and lots of friends as well. I think that Dovorians are the most hospitable people that I have come across in all my travels around the world.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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alec
i wholeheartedly agree with your last paragraph, as an incomer myself, i find the people locally extremely friendly and helpful in the main.
you see people all the time in town giving directions to overseas visitors.
in a lot of places this does not happen.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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HOWARD
Thats good then you will be nice to me soon lol
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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no keith, everyone else is nice and friendly.
not me though, but i am working on it.
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