Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,801
Seems Simon as well as David is as miserable and grumpy as this mornings weather.
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I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
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Guest 782- Registered: 4 Oct 2012
- Posts: 357
See you tonight Reginald, we can talk about my ego then.
Guest 1831- Registered: 1 Sep 2016
- Posts: 395
#116.........The tone, the spelling and the disgusting insults would make me run a mile from a
Town Team Meeting. There is obviously no discussion, or acceptance of constructive criticism.
Simon Crowley for a "professional" man, you let yourself and the name of Tersons down.
In your own words - I am banging on, and keyboard worriering - mispelt it should be keyboard warrior.
What utter nonsense. You say you have given us good news - it is good POSSIBLE news. I deal with actual, the here and now. These shops are a disgrace, they urgently require a clean up, this is commonsense.
Guest 1849- Registered: 12 Sep 2016
- Posts: 440
I really have no idea why the Town Team bother tbh, a group of well meaning local volunteers ridiculed by ignorant fools.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
I am so glad I am out of it all now, volunteers should never be run down even if they not getting any where ,they are trying to do good.
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
- Posts: 1,087
Dover Town Team regularly cleans the outside of the windows on all the unoccupied units and also the inside of those that The Team is allowed access to. Unfortunately, there are quite a few where absent landlords will not allow the team to have access to the inside and who refused permission to do work to make the outsides more cosmetically pleasing. The Team had hoped that the hold-outs could be persuaded to cooperate by involving larger, national, organisations, but the nationals appear to have fared no better than the Town Team, yet everyone who is trying to get the hold-outs to make improvements continues to try.
Cardboard and rubbish is frequently removed from doorways, often by Town Team members themselves, but is more often than not replaced by new cardboard within hours. Pressure to improve properties is continuous, it doesn't stop, it goes on day in and day out. The advent of the DTC Love Dover initiative will add to that daily pressure as that organisation springboards off the improved environment to sequentially acquire, refurbish and return to use empty properties within the High Street.
Many of the vacant units currently have unusable upper floors and absent owners seem to expect new retail tenants (if they ever get any) to make the improvements required to return upper floors to full functionality - this then proves to be a disincentive to potential new tenants who don't then take on the liability.
I don't know if anyone else on here has tried to get funding to do the 'easy stuff' in the High Street that should by rights be being done by owners, or tried getting access to buildings owned by large international property portfolios to carry out work without having obtained specific funding to do so - its not easy (I want to say something much stronger, but good manners and all that).
The full refurbishment of the area between Bench Street and Market Street is a start (its not the final destination), it is something that is possible to get funding for and is something that can make a difference to footfall that can, in turn, spark an actual interest from absent landlords in the state of their properties and which will help the Town Council's Love Dover initiative by vastly improving the approaches to our High Street to/from the upcoming DTIZ and the existing and potentially new routes to/from the seafront. The projection through the new water feature in the evenings is designed to extend the period each day when the area is in general use and help outlets there by having something attractive and interesting going on in this part of town for people to go to after work with their families. It is called 'Ghosts of Dover' because of the ethereal nature of images projected through moving water, not because the projections will be of ghosts, and because it will draw on our extensive historical archive to begin to tell Dover's own unique history over 3000 years.
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,801
David you really are making a fool of yourself with comments such as those you have been posting this morning.
Great post Neil.
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Guest 1849- Registered: 12 Sep 2016
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Jan, we are all entitled to our opinions. Mine is that the Town Team members should be encouraged and applauded, I have zero interest in what fools hiding behind pseudonyms think or say about anything, they are destructive whilst others actually get on and do things.
Guest 782- Registered: 4 Oct 2012
- Posts: 357
Oh dear
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
niel,its not the outsides need doing its the insides as well,would you rent a unit with green slim climing up the windows on the inside that is worrying.otherwise it was a good post.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
david,simon if you cant take constructive critisom get out of the kitchen.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,018
A very good post Neil I think when you post you are always polite.I can concur with a lot you have said .When I held the Housing and Community post on the cabinet at DDC I realised how hard it is yo achieve all your ambitions.The Private Sector Housing always had a very low budget"could not get the funding to restore neglected properties
Look how long it took for us to get the Metropole Building sorted now flats.The Prince Of Wales Training school very interesting building some walls had straw linings.I was delighted
after chasing a reluctantant Landlord a property in Beaconsfield Road was restored to its former glory.
Nothing comes easy. .
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,801
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Paul M- Registered: 1 Feb 2016
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Excellent. Let's hope it gets the green light.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,018
The artistic drawings are much akin to one of the original plans for DTIZ .The idea of trees impressed me and I voted for that scheme.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Word is that the bid has been unsuccessful this time.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Market Square looking a bit sorry this morning, surely the "Crown" should be ready to take its rightful place? On the plus side work going on inside the "Port of Call" ready for re-opening soon .
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,935
Glad the discussion about the colour of the deck chairs on the Titanic continues. Perhaps we should instead be looking at the course steered?
Dover's USP is its 2000 years plus of [U]history[/U] (when I hear the word heritage I want to reach for my gun!).
When/if we finally try to offer what we have in spades rather than playing catch up with what other places already provide we might actually make some progress.
'Ghosts of Dover' FFS. Do you pronounce patronising with a hard 'a' or. a soft 'a'?
"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Market Square planters.
The equivalent in Folkestone.