Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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Howard says it all really, maybe time for new volunteers to come forward the town team had a go
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Market Square still looking neglected this morning, why the Crown has not been put back by now is beyond me. I don't know which ward it is but I would expect one of their councillors to be asking questions and putting pressure on.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,802
I thought the crown was originally only in the Market Square for Jubilee year and was going somewhere else afterwards.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Jan Higgins wrote:I thought the crown was originally only in the Market Square for Jubilee year and was going somewhere else afterwards.
Could be right there but it should be somewhere central by now so that people can see it. Market Square seems the best place now that the fountain is defunct and there is no money from the Coastal Communities fund to improve the area.
Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,231
It's currently stuck in the back of the maintenance yard at connaught park looking sorry for itself, at least it,was a couple of weeks ago haven't been up there since.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Reginald Barrington wrote:It's currently stuck in the back of the maintenance yard at connaught park looking sorry for itself, at least it,was a couple of weeks ago haven't been up there since.
What a shambles after all the money spent on it, no doubt someone thinks someone else is dealing with it.
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Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
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I think you will find that Market Square is in Castle Ward so it is Chuckles Collor who is the (ir)relevant District Councillor; or is he now too busy in Maidstone to be interested?
As for DTC the (ir)relevant councillors are Wee Willy Wanstall & Callum Warriner
In light of the failure of the Coastal Communities Fund to make any significant awards to communities in the South East including the Town Team's bid for Market Square (actually looking at where they did make awards none were safe parliamentary seats) perhaps our well meaning but ineffective MP should be asking questions too - or maybe not as there is no photo opportunity...
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I remember looking briefly at the list of winners and noting that only three were in the South East, Sheppey, Hastings and somewhere else that were deserving cases plus further afield a couple of East Anglian run down towns. Governments of both colours are convinced that we all live in the stock broker belt and "oop Norf" is full of blokes with flat caps walking whippets.
Of the Councillors connected I would have thought Graham Wanstall would be the chap to make waves over the state of Market Square as he is normally strong in such matters.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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wanstall and coller often meet up in mash tun,so would have to walk/drive through the market square to get there.
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Those images look good especially the trees. Trees going towards the Town Hall, CannonStreet onward would greatly improve the look of that area, link it to the new look Market Square enticing visitors to what is now an increasingly becoming a tatty area.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Was told earlier that the latest bid for money from the Coastal Communities fund to rejuvenate Market Square has been rejected again but I cannot find anything current about/from the Town Team.
Captain Haddock
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I can confirm that the mad plan for the 'squirty bird bath', some new tramp-perches and moving the highway about a bit for no particular reason (again) has been knocked on the head.
Unfortunately even as I type the usual suspects are getting out the backs of envelopes and their crayons.
How about 'an iconic piece of public art' to act as 'a focal point' for our 'Historic Quarter' *** ? No-one has come out with that for a few years.
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As far as I can gather everywhere in the United Kingdom apart from New Towns like Welwyn Garden City and Milton Keynes now has a 'Historic Quarter'."Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I rather liked the idea of a water feature but clearly the judging panel were not swayed by it. There is a further £40, 000, 000 available between now and March 2021 but no more bids are being accepted.
Dover Pilot- Registered: 28 Jul 2018
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Captain Haddock wrote:I can confirm that the mad plan for the 'squirty bird bath', some new tramp-perches and moving the highway about a bit for no particular reason (again) has been knocked on the head.
Unfortunately even as I type the usual suspects are getting out the backs of envelopes and their crayons.
How about 'an iconic piece of public art' to act as 'a focal point' for our 'Historic Quarter' *** ? No-one has come out with that for a few years.
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As far as I can gather everywhere in the United Kingdom apart from New Towns like Welwyn Garden City and Milton Keynes now has a 'Historic Quarter'.
Good. It was a rubbish idea.
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Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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Captain Haddock wrote:I can confirm that the mad plan ... has been knocked on the head.
Surely doing something that makes Market Square more usable is good, oh but its not Deal Pier so it must be bad or mad or both hey Cap'n
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Pablo- Registered: 21 Mar 2018
- Posts: 614
Was it just an expensive way to re-arrange the deckchairs? Or was it really something that would rejuvenate the town centre? Of course now we shall never know but I feel it would have needed an awful lot more besides.
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
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Peter, I am not convinced it would by itself have rejuvenated the town centre, but it would have opened Market Square up into a much more usable and therefore useful space that would have facilitated multiple uses that could have helped.
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Pablo- Registered: 21 Mar 2018
- Posts: 614
Perhaps we can apply for some EU money to get it going?
