Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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Bonkers .What we need is a couple of decent clothes shops.I hardly think the population of Dover needs all these food/ drink outlets.We need food banks so there must be great deal of poverty in the .Town .
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The Dover public clearly like their food and drink outlets as other than pub closures (a nationwide thing) any café or restaurant that closes soon re-opens doing a similar thing. I can only think of the Port of Call and Rack of ale not doing this mainly due to landlord problems and Dickens Corner is apparently to have a café on the ground floor in the fullness of time.
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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The taxpayers of Dover have paid for Dickens Corner. So glad that someone will benefit from it.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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Sue Nicholas wrote:Bonkers .What we need is a couple of decent clothes shops.I hardly think the population of Dover needs all these food/ drink outlets.We need food banks so there must be great deal of poverty in the .Town .
The outlets would only want to open if they thought there would be sufficient trade.
I do not believer there is a "great deal of poverty in the town", as long as there are food banks there will be people to make use of them. Some will genuinely need them but there are also idol wasters who will take every advantage they can not to actively provide for themselves.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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You see it on here all the time we have some deprived areas. Their Councillors are,always screaming for money .
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Sue there is a huge difference between deprived areas and deprived people. I know I used to live in a council house in St Rads area but back then we had to manage our money or go hungry, as a family of five we never went hungry and managed to pay all our bills on time.
Unlike many today we were not a spoon fed society and I really believe far to many now want to have a good time and live on the state or credit.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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This thread is turning into a parody of the Monty Python Yorkshireman sketch, just surprised that Brian hasn't uploaded it yet.
Most people in Dover although not well off are doing ok but ther are pockets of poverty where working people on low earnings are referred to food banks, that includes nurses and primary school teachers. Just to clear up misconceptions nobody can just stroll up to a food bank and come away with a hamper from Fortnum and Masons.
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Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
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Some serious problem if a nurse or teacher can't make a £22000 min salary stretch to 3 meals a day!
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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For those in band 5 they would be able to get by fairly comfortably.
https://www.rcn.org.uk/employment-and-pay/nhs-pay-scales-2017-18#tab3Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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I know from my DDC days certain wards in Dover were classed as deprived.I hear what Jan is saying.A good friend of mine when faced with young Mums complaining about not enough money to feed their families My friend taught them how to make wholesome meals.I think people who donate to food banks should buy food and the people who need to feed their families be taught how to manage
and cook a decent meal.
There is too much dependency on hand outs .
I found it hard when I had a young family .
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
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Qualified nurses start at band 5 Howard.
I know people in my neighbourhood who use food banks, these same people have sky subscriptions, smoke, get takeaways a couple of times a week and at least 2 of them don't pay the water bills knowing full well they can't be cut off, all have cars!
Life on benefits! It ain't so bad!
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Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
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Reginald Barrington wrote:I know people in my neighbourhood who use food banks, these same people have sky subscriptions, smoke, get takeaways a couple of times a week and at least 2 of them don't pay the water bills knowing full well they can't be cut off, all have cars!
Life on benefits! It ain't so bad!
Blimey, RB, your curtains surely need a rest.
btw those rates of pay in HM's link are actually for Scottish nurses; those for England are lower, and those for Wales and Northern Ireland lower still. Presumably they're higher in Scotland to account for the high levels of Irn-Bru and battered Mars Bars the nurses consume, but I guess RB's relatives over the border could tell us for sure.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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How long do nurses normally work before they become Qualified?
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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My Granddaughter went to Christchurch University studied to become a nurse.After the three years she obtained a first Class honours degree,went straight to William Harvey .a Staff nurse in ITU.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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Her father helped with a deposit on a flat and for the first year or so she saved as well and now is paying off the loan instead of renting.Not bad going mind you she doesn’t smoke or really drink .Some young people do study and take up a good career.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Getting back to shops.
Morrisons was quite busy earlier and I even saw quite a few of those almost invisible people called staff.
Seriously why are these stores so annoyingly tight fisted by not employing extra staff in the holiday period, those left are often stressed and knackered doing the work of two people sometimes more if others are off sick.
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Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:How long do nurses normally work before they become Qualified?
They don't, they cannot work as a nurse until qualified, there is a plethora of nursing jobs that don't require the degree though; practice nurse, HCA, care worker dental assistant and a few others.
Spoke to a staff member from farthingloe today she did know the full details of inspection but one of the issues was unsealed concrete floor in butchery, apparently a major no no?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The chap planning to open the cocktail bar gives his address as 4 Park Place where Tranquility trade from, I wonder if he owns that too.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Reginald Barrington wrote:
Spoke to a staff member from farthingloe today she did know the full details of inspection but one of the issues was unsealed concrete floor in butchery, apparently a major no no?
That is completely understandable, blood and even dirt could get into the unsealed concrete floor so it could never be completely clean.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Noticed in Morrison's today that there is a tag similar to a key fob on each of the baskets which I have never noticed before and wondering whether it is a security device.