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- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,039
Nightmare, check! Meanwhile, this from the BBC: "National Highways said it was closing the M20 coastbound between junctions eight and nine to reduce disruption." Somewhat beyond me.
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
- Posts: 1,298
This will be the next big thing - Brexit fanatics in the media will eventually stumble across this fact and immediately claim in needs ending....by Wednesday. You watch.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,884
The motorway closure was to allow an air ambulance to land
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Guest 3925- Registered: 28 Nov 2020
- Posts: 541
Just been for a walk and it's minor celebrity fun and games at the entrance to the port, BBC's Simon Jones interviewing Doug Bannister, Simon Calder (the travel "expert" on his laptop, and as I walked back along the seafront, our illustrious MP was walking along to join the party!
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My shot isn't as good as the Twitter pic!
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Gary39- Registered: 7 Jul 2017
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The Kent Resilience Forum.. what is the point of them..
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Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,992
I note that the UK is currently sending almost 2 gigawatts of electricity to France via interconnectors. About 6% of UK generation this morning.
Presumably the Froggies are not meticulously inspecting each kw of electricity to bugger us around post Brexit?
Meanwhile 'our' Kylie calls for the A2 to be dualled so people can get to the tail-back at the docks even quicker?
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
- Posts: 1,298
It's not buggering us around, Bob, it's what we wanted and asked for. We wanted third country status, and that's what we've got. We made a clear decision that we were happy to give that up for the benefits...
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,832
It is amazing how whenever anything goes wrong it is because of Brexit.
This latest was mainly the high volume of expected holiday traffic plus the inability of the French to sufficiently man their own little boxes in time. Was this because the missing passport stampers were silly enough to travel via the tunnel when they could have travelled straight into the docks by ferry.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,992
Neil Moors wrote:It's not buggering us around, Bob.
Yes it is.
There is no evidence of significant additional checks by PAF under the SBC other than passport stamping which adds little to transaction times (and will be obviated with the introduction of EES and ETIAS).
EU MS have always been able to swipe British passports & U.K. visitors low risk to Schengen countries.
Main issue is enough PAF resources in Dover. Not helped when PAF insist on crossing by Tunnel and refuse to stay overnight in Dover between shifts.
Would be interesting to know how many UKPH the Froggies have actually repelled (other than for Covid reasons) having messed up hundreds of thousands of holidays.
Increase votre word-power. BOF (French) a spoken interjection that translates more as a feeling of disinterest or mild unhappiness than an actual word.
e.g.
DHB: 'Je voir que vous avez seulement un homme de passport sur le control aujourd hui. Pourquoi?'
Le PAF : 'Bof.' (Shrugs les épaules)
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
- Posts: 2,158
There is a juxtaposed border. The French have the right to control it as they see fit. Forget your cod French.
Pablo- Registered: 21 Mar 2018
- Posts: 614
There is clause in the treaty creating the juxtaposed controls which says that it can be suspended with no notice at any time for emergency operational reasons. Why has this clause not been invoked?
Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,039
Pablo wrote:There is clause in the treaty creating the juxtaposed controls which says that it can be suspended with no notice at any time for emergency operational reasons. Why has this clause not been invoked?
I don't think that's strictly correct. Article 24 allows the a party to take steps to safeguard its sovereignty or security. Article 1(5) is more interesting and provides for the seaport participants to be varied - without an exchange of diplomatic notes if there is an immediate operational need. (That's my reading, anyway.)
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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ray hutstone wrote:There is a juxtaposed border. The French have the right to control it as they see fit. Forget your cod French.
They do indeed Ray, but somehow when I visit the rest of the world such as the USA or South Africa or even Israel which is probably the most thorough clearance you will ever undergo, they tend to staff their controls adequately to clear the passengers in a reasonable time.
Odd that the French seem unable to do this I would suggest?
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Matey
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 11 Oct 2021
- Posts: 178
I know they attend meetings with DHB and ferry operators weeks in advance and they get copies of the bookings, so they know only too well which days and times are heaviest.
There’s no need for all this……really, there’s not.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,884
This looks set in for all the summer holidays which is sad for itself and again Dover the loser
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,039
There are children born in that queue who have yet to attend school!
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How I Wrote Elastic Man- Registered: 5 Dec 2020
- Posts: 105
Captain Haddock wrote:They do indeed Ray, but somehow when I visit the rest of the world such as the USA or South Africa or even Israel which is probably the most thorough clearance you will ever undergo, they tend to staff their controls adequately to clear the passengers in a reasonable time.
Odd that the French seem unable to do this I would suggest?
The French aren´t the only ones
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58448565
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