Gary39- Registered: 7 Jul 2017
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This is the queue going into Dover today…
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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Button wrote:There are children born in that queue who have yet to attend school!
Ans as for those conceived in the queue ......................
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,832
According to the news the traffic problem is now to do with Eurotunnel, although lorries still waiting to clear Dover.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,884
Trevor Bartlett leader of DD council Been busy on radio Kent
But they have had many years to solve the issues
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,023
Well Keith you beat me to it.I missed hearing Trevor as I had not heard him over the weekend.I have just been saying that all the agencies have had months even years to sort this.Its not like it’s a
sudden emergency it happens every year.I complained bitterly last year re lack of toilet facilities.This year it’s so hot .I would have hoped they had emergency meetings at Whitfield cross party.Perhaps that is too much to ask
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
- Posts: 1,298
People/organisations really should be prepared - this was no surprise. The problem we have is the complete denial of Brexit changing things - if we just accept that it changed everything and factored that in, things might be better.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Neil you have hit the nail on the head.Plenty of time to plan ,this was to be expected. TV interviews useless.Months ago even two years ago meetings should have taken place this does not put us in a very good light.Bad publicity for Dover and the whole of East Kent.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Strange old world when it's easier to enter a country without any documents than leave a country with a valid passport?
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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You are a wit bob
Guest 3925- Registered: 28 Nov 2020
- Posts: 541
It's all about planning, and watching the motorway cameras and Google maps to work out when to leave home!
2am Saturday morning arrived at Eurotunnel with only a 30 min queue to check-in, then another 30 min queue on site, French passport control took 56sec for 4 passports (we timed it) and was loaded about 30 minutes after that.
Whatever you read, it has nothing to do with the French passport control!
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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To continue on my last point, I rather suspect the problem is that we've stuck our heads in the sand across the whole of Brexit planning, because to invest in post Brexit infrastructure solutions acknowledges that things have fundamentally changed. It's pretty clear that the government is still trying to keep up the pretence that things are exactly the same as before we left the EU, and they aint!
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Dover Pilot- Registered: 28 Jul 2018
- Posts: 345
Simon Calder destroying the Daily Mail's Andrew Pierce over the post Brexit border checks.
https://www.indy100.com/politics/brexit-dover-queues-simon-calderGuest 3925- Registered: 28 Nov 2020
- Posts: 541
Shame the Daily Fail don't visit Aycliffe....
Not belittling the residents of Whitfield, but it's hardly like Aycliffe and all they constantly suffer.
Villagers reveal weekend of hell after left roads outside gridlocked
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Gary39- Registered: 7 Jul 2017
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Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
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#668 and #673: it depends who you're talking about. PoD was cognizant of the likely impacts of Brexit on operations some time (years) before the referendum and, like Eurotunnel, invested significant time and effort after it, starting the next day. This includes increasing French control infrastructure to combat increased processing times and, to be fair to PAF, they went along with increased staffing - hence the outcry when booths were left unstaffed:
https://www.doverport.co.uk/about/news/woefully-inadequate-french-border-resource-ruins-s/13687/.
PoD also recognised that more controls infrastructure would be required for the longer term... and this is what happened:
https://www.doverport.co.uk/about/news/port-of-dover-response-to-port-infrastructure-fund/13558/. Mind you, perhaps Ms Truss has a cunning plan for later this year.
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/62294901
Port of Dover chief executive Doug Bannister said there had been inadequate staffing from French border police.
And both of the Conservative leadership candidates have put the blame on the French authorities.
Rishi Sunak said: "They need to stop blaming Brexit and start getting the staff required to match demand"
Liz Truss said: "The French authorities have not put enough people on the border"
Without Brexit maybe there would be less passport control but as long as there are so many lorries wanting to use the ferries there will be chaos at peak times as has happened pre Brexit. The only simple answer would be more ferries and more trains which I assume is not at all feasible.
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Dover Pilot- Registered: 28 Jul 2018
- Posts: 345
Hopefully the French can also sort out the horrendous staff shortages and queues at UK airports which clearly can't match demand.
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Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
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Question. Is the ferry capacity of P & O back to pre crewing dispute. How much pressure does that cause Port disruption?
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