Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,019
i attended a cabinet meeting this morning as an observer .
£70,000 was voted through with hardly a murmer .To put towards the cost of renovating the toilets at Sandwich .
How often do we see this money spent on the Northern Parishes??
This will not get better 8 out of the 10 Cabinet members come from that side of the district .
At least I could speak up for this part of the district .WEll Kearsney Abbey Wall will be put on hold for awhile longer plus the toilets in Russel Gardens .
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 5,673
Sue - why can't Sandwich have money spend on it ? There are lots of others that pay our council tax outside of Dover and want to see something for it....
There are approx 104,566 in the Dover District and only approx 32,500 live in Dover itself.
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
paul,intresting figers there,just wondering how many people live in the river/temple ewell area and would it be worth £70,000 renewing the toilets at russel gardens/bushy ruff and the wall in kearsney abby.what percentange per head/person ratio money wise.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,019
£4,000 to reopen the toilets Kearsney Abbey is a visitor attraction and you only have to walk through there on a weekend or school holidays to see how popular it is .
Paul dont give me that old excuse .I have said for a long time Im a District Councillor Deal pier double the orignal budget .
Sue how long have you been speaking up for the Kearsney area just out of curiosity? There is a reason I am asking
£4000 is peanuts, the loos are necessary. Cough up!!!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
susan has a point, i think that there is only 1 councillor in cabinet that lives in dover.
our bogs are a disgrace, it is more hygienic to use the dour in the town centre.
with the amount of visitors from the cruise ships, i think that dover should get a good share of any money going to smarten up the khasis.
Truly, a town is often judged on its "host" abilities, and loos are a vital part of that. I love going back to Ireland, but the state of the public loos (when you can find them) puts people off visiting town centres and the smaller towns - I am just glad I am related in some way to huge quantities of people and can justifiably knock on a door and ask to use their loo!!!! That, or I am forced to go to the pub and have a drink in order to justify using their facilities. Terrible!
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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I think Sue is spot on with regard to the point that very few of our leaders seem to come from Dover itself. Ive heard this over and over again in the pubs and elsewhere of good old Dover.The distinct feeling is that it makes a difference as to where the development cash ends up. I dont know if the murmurings are accurate...but certainly the feeling exists that the cash follows the location of the main council players.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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yes it does matter Sue's right on this one
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,696
Sue - I agree with you that this is another example of the apparent bias of the "ruling elite" on DDC.
We desperately need the toilets in the town centre, connaught park and on the sea front repairing and renovating, we also need regular patrols checking said facilities to stop the petty vandalism that occurs with alarming regularity. They are currently an appalling advert for the town.
Of course Sandwich and Deal need to have decent public toilets as well, but £70k seems an awfully large sum of money for toilets - you could buy one of the 15 properties in Dover currently advertised on rightmove for less than that sum
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Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Not just toilets by reading it:
"To work in partnership with Sandwich Town Council to provide toilet facilities at The Quay to renovate the existing facilities to provide male and female toilets with integral baby changing facilities, disabled toilet to meet the current legislation, showers and changing facilities for visiting yachtsmen and an attendant's room."
Do DDC receive income for their use to contribute towards running costs ?
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Guest 686- Registered: 5 May 2009
- Posts: 556
Do the visiting yachsmen have such facilities at the Dover marina I wonder?
Phil West
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
phil,the answer is yes provided by dhb.
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You need to know that Sandwich Town Council have contributed £40k of the £70k and are to take over the running costs of the toilets on completion. i.e the people of Sandwich are picking up the costs of the services directly. We call that partnership working. Other Parish councils have taken over or made contributions towards running costs of conveniences in their Parishes. Deal Town Council have been actively engaged in replacement toilets in their town.
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Guest 664- Registered: 23 Mar 2008
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Yes. They reside in their non-Dover hideyholes while making judgements on our town.
Meanwhile the offices are in Whitfield when they should be in the town centre. There are practical benefits to this as DDC workers would be out and about in the town at lunchtime spending money and boosting business (instead of Tesco).
The offices could be demolished altogether and used for brownfield housing land or converted into flats/an old people's home.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Does this mean that everyone should work in their home district rather than commute ??
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Guest 664- Registered: 23 Mar 2008
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Paul, how do you extrapolate that from my statement?
Moving the offices was originally someone else's suggestion but a good one. In fact I understand council workers are moving to Whitfield to be near work. That's their choice, as it is for anyone to live where they want.
But it may be that people with solid salaries and pensions are being sucked out of the town and to Whitfield, thus helping tilt the balance ever more in Whitfield's favour in its competition with Dover.
Give the town a fighting chance or knock it down and put it out of its misery and move it lock, stock and barrel up the hill. We can't have two thriving towns in Dover and the sooner the council wake up to this the better.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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You said..."They reside in their non-Dover hideyholes while making judgements on our town".... then you refer to Whitfield, sorry misread what you said....
Having said this, would people want DDC to vacate a purpose built building, purchase a new site and convert to be capable of accomodating hundreds of people/parking all at a cost ?
I don't want to have to pay to relocate something that doesn't really make a diference to 75% of the population and have to drive into a busy town rather than quieter environs.....!!
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
i wouldnt say that the whitfield area includeing the ddc ofices where or quiet at the best of times,the area does get more gridlocked than townwall/snargate street at times.