Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
- Posts: 2,158
How curious that you should choose to highlight this one Cameronesque lie amongst the 350 million others. Perhaps you should think twice about the election process for your party leaders.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,865
I just wished the 3 major parties sorted out this mess
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
It is the political parties that are causing this mess Keith, the Tories have had a civil war in their party over Europe for years and it is all about which faction takes control not about what is best for us. The Labour party are using the issue to try and force a General Election which they think they will win and are not really that interested in seeing us get a good leaving deal despite what they say.
DeepAir- Registered: 3 Oct 2018
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Now that battle buses are back complete with slogans maybe the PM could send one around the country bearing the legend "Let's not fritter away 39 billion quid on the NHS, just send it to Brussels who will know best how to spend it" ?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Michael Gove sometimes known as Mr R Slicker.
Brexiteers have attacked Michael Gove for defending Theresa May’s deal with Brussels and suggesting there could be another referendum if MPs reject it. The environment secretary described her withdrawal agreement as the best option available at present and warned that leaving without any agreement would cause economic turbulence. However, he did not rule out a Norway-style agreement if Mrs May failed to get her proposals through parliament next week and added that there may be a majority in parliament for a second vote.
One Brexiteer said that Mr Gove’s performance was “mad” and “such a betrayal”. Mr Gove told the BBC’s Andrew Marr Show that a no-deal exit, of the kind backed by some Brexiteers, would result in “trouble for the economy” that was “clearly . . . going to cause hurt”. He also attacked those calling for a second referendum, accusing them of thinking that pro-Brexit voters were “thick” and “prejudiced” and jeopardising public faith in democracy. He admitted that parts of the deal left him uncomfortable. The backstop, he said, would mean that “there are some rules that might apply in Northern Ireland that might not apply in other parts of the UK”.
However, he said that such a scenario would be more uncomfortable for the EU, creating a hefty incentive for both sides to agree a trade deal. Under the backstop Britain would have an advantage over other European nations, he said, because it would have tariff-free access to the single market without paying a penny as well as control of borders. He said that it “fundamentally works against the interests of the single market and against the interests of European nations”.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,821
"Michael Gove sometimes known as Mr R Slicker."
A man who bends whichever way the wind blows, completely untrustworthy.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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They will have to make public the full legal advice eventually so might just as well do it now or it just looks like they are trying to pull the wool over our eyes.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46419790Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
- Posts: 1,298
I'll go for a repeat performance of the impact assessments, i.e. the required document(s) don't actually exist - which is what the Government is really trying to hide....
Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 3,008
DeepAir wrote:I thought I'd add something relevant too
Ah, dear old Sir Patrick, more of his practical jokes please.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
The next five days in the Commons sees an eight hour debate each day leading up to the vote on Tuesday evening, seems like the PM is trying to bore the MPs into voting for her deal.
Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,033
Eek - an 8-hour working day!
(Not my real name.)
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
post 2852, and why not its a total sham at the moment,with most members disagreeing with mays Brexit plan.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Poor old Cruella it is not often, if ever, that a PM is found to be in contempt of Parliament.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46446694Jan Higgins likes this
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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That was not entirely unexpected, ignore the majority and you are asking for trouble, be it the legalities or the general content of the Brexit waffle.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Where does it all go from now? The PM loses three votes in a day and Nigel Farage has left UKIP saying there is room for another Brexit party!! The fringe right is in disarray with "For Britain" getting nowhere due to Tommy being welcomed into UKIP by Batten who has no idea on how to get mass appeal.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
there is a good chance of us [ the uk ] staying in Europe.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,986
Time to dust off 17.4 million yellow jackets. Just saying.
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Brian Dixon likes this"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"