howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Courtesy of the Telegraph.
Theresa May is facing a grassroots rebellion over her Brexit deal as 29 Conservative Association chairmen warn her they are “appalled” that the party has used funds to distribute PR leaflets backing the withdrawal agreement. Senior Tory activists have written to Conservative Party headquarters warning that the decision to instruct local associations to distribute “promotional literature” to the public constituted a “misuse” of funds.
The chairmen claim that in the face of widespread opposition to the deal from the Tory grassroots, the decision is “questionable at best” and that funds should not “be used on divisive issues where the majority of members strongly object to a flawed agenda.” Branding Mrs May’s election-style campaign “propaganda”, they have demanded that the distribution of the leaflets is “stopped with immediate effect and that there will be no future repetition”. It comes after Conservative activists across the country on Tuesday refused to distribute party leaflets aimed at encouraging voters to write to their MPs to encourage them to back the deal.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Shock Breaking News - Council Leader asks Government for more money for something.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Courtesy of the Telegraph.
Major ports could suffer disruption for up to six months under a no-deal scenario, the Government will tell industry leaders in letters due to be circulated today. In revised forecasts, a cross-government planning committee will warn that access through Dover and Folkestone could be reduced for considerably longer than first feared. A Whitehall source told The Telegraph that under new planning assumptions, ministers expected there to be “significantly reduced access into Dover and Folkestone for up to six months”. The Department for Health and other Government departments which make up the Border Delivery Group are expected to write to business leaders and other relevant bodies today updating them on the forecasts.
On Friday Theresa May’s spokesman confirmed that the group would be “talking today to their key stakeholders about the Government’s no-deal planning assumptions for the border.” Asked whether the Government had revised no-deal disruption estimates for ports like Dover up from six weeks to six months, he said: “I wouldn’t characterise it like that. The point of the work is looking at the issues related to potential congestion around the Dover area after Brexit and the best way of managing that.”
It comes after a Government consultation document leaked to The Times revealed that health ministers are ratcheting up no deal preparations amid growing opposition from MPs to Theresa May’s Brexit deal. The document calls for rapid changes to medicine rules to "support the continuity of supply of medicines in a 'no-deal' scenario". The changes would allow ministers to issue a "serious shortage protocol" for pharmacies to follow, effectively allowing them to overrule GPs and ration prescriptions to patients to prevent drugs and medicines running out.
Ministers would order pharmacists to dispense a "reduced quantity" of Ministers would order pharmacists to dispense a "reduced quantity" of the medicine, an "alternative dosage form", "therapeutic equivalent" or a "generic equivalent". Meanwhile, Matt Hancock, the Health Secretary, confirmed that the Government was exploring whether or not planes could be used to fly in drugs to circumvent disruption at major ports, whilst lorries carrying medicines would be given priority. Mr Hancock defended the Government's preparations for a no-deal Brexit but stressed that the potential problems were a reason to back Theresa May's plan in the crucial Commons vote next week.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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also:-
Animals heard to speak in strange tongues.
Plagues of frogs.
Deaths of firstborn.
Horsemen of the Apocalypse sighted in Thanet.
Strange comet appears in sky.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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ukip's yearly conference bob, .lol
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The wisdom of Paul Carter!!
“There also needs to be a national communications plan with clear road signage and communication with hauliers and factories to keep trucks in depots before they are given the signal to make their journey south to Manston where they will be held until released and go on down the A256 to Dover.
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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- Posts: 3,008
Captain Haddock wrote:Strange comet appears in sky.
The hairy star's appearance did presage the Norman apocalypse. But as most of us can't wait another 43 years we may as well take some chaos now if it's offered.
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'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Button- Location: Dover
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Assuming Mr Carter came out with his absolute load of tripe after he met with the Finance Director and General Manager, Operations of Europe's busiest ro-road port, then either they were speaking in tongues or else he needs a hearing aid and didn't have it with him.
Hang on, folks - it's just been pointed out to me that he's a politician, which explains a lot. Why we allow so many of our elected politicians to live on the plant Zog is completely beyond me.
(Not my real name.)
PatrickS- Location: Marine Parade, Dover
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So, the disciples have been despatched to all corners of the kingdom to preach the “word” of she who must be followed.
The problem is the “word” is not being heard, despite the horses of the apocalypse being driven through our democratic process (or what’s left of it).
The home guard is fired up, rifles and pitch forks at the ready. They stand on the white cliffs, defiant and resolute to ward off the evil exponents that wish to keep us shackled to foreign dictates.
“They shall not pass” is the battle cry.
The only problem is the PM and her civil service cronies have them pointing inland.
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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In theory all of our MPs should vote the way their constituents want whichever way that is, not how the more selfish or insular MPs feel is best for their careers or ideals.
Unfortunately I do not believe in miracles.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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I see mrs may has found her self a new job of work.
lol
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Courtesy of the Sunday Times.
Theresa May will seek to emulate Margaret Thatcher by travelling to Brussels to demand a better Brexit deal in a last-ditch attempt to save her government from collapse. Ministers and aides have convinced the prime minister that she needs “a handbag moment” with EU bosses if she is to have any chance of persuading her own MPs to support her. They expect May to announce tomorrow that she will launch a final throw of the diplomatic dice with a dash to Brussels, a move that could result in Tuesday’s vote being postponed.
Senior ministers bombarded the prime minister with warnings yesterday that she has to look like she is fighting for a deal that Brexiteers can support — or face a catastrophic defeat that could lead to Jeremy Corbyn becoming prime minister by Christmas. One senior cabinet minister said: “People in No 10 think she needs to have a ‘handbag moment’ where she says: ‘Up with this I will not put.’”
But The Sunday Times can reveal that even as she makes a final appeal to theEU, some of her most trusted ministers are already planning for a new referendum.
May’s deputy, David Lidington, and the justice secretary, David Gauke, have been in talks with Labour MPs to gauge whether there is a Commons majority for a second referendum or a Norway-style deal inside the single market if May’s mission fails. Allies say they have concluded that MPs are now most likely to back a “people’s vote”, piling pressure on the prime minister to achieve concessions that would get rebel MPs behind her plan. Civil servants have war-gamed two versions of a new vote. The first would feature a choice between May’s deal and remain. The second would see voters asked to choose between leave and remain with a second question asking them, in the event of a leave win, whether they prefer the existing deal or a no-deal departure on World Trade Organisation terms.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Latest from the BBC but I reckon the PM will suddenly fly to Brussels today or tomorrow with a begging bowl.
"Brexit Secretary Stephen Barclay said, with two days of debate remaining, the government would continue to make the case for it. Despite speculation it could be called off, he said: "The vote is going ahead and that's because it's a good deal and it's the only deal".
He warned against those advocating negotiations could be reopened, if the deal is rejected: "The risk for those who say simply go back and ask again, the risk is that isn't necessarily a one-way street.
"The French, the Spanish and others will turn round, if we seek to reopen the negotiation, and ask for more."
And he insisted that Theresa May could remain prime minister, even if her deal is heavily defeated by MPs: "Yes, the prime minister is fighting for us and will continue in post.
Bob Whysman- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
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Captain Haddock wrote:Shock Breaking News - Council Leader asks Government for more money for something.
This could set a precedent Capt!
Do nothing and nothing happens.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Courtesy of the Sunday Times.
Half of all voters think British politics is “broken” and only one in seven thinks the Tories and Labour represent the views of the public, clearing the way for the creation of new political parties. A YouGov poll for The Sunday Times has found that the Brexit crisis has fractured public trust in the political class, with 44% of voters saying the response of MPs has damaged their view of politicians. The findings come as Nigel Farage, the former Ukip leader, today confirms that he is working on a new “leave” campaign that could morph into a new party on the right if MPs water down Brexit.
Up to 17 Labour MPs are in talks about breaking away from the party if Jeremy Corbyn refuses to back a new EU referendum.
“I can’t believe distrust of politics can ever have been higher,” said Farage, who warned that he now expects parliament to press for a suspension of article 50, the process by which Britain is leaving the European Union. He added: “We are absolutely preparing for a referendum in case there is one. We don’t want one, but it’s equally quite sensible to insure your house because there might be a fire.”
Having left Ukip last week after it employed Stephen Yaxley-Lennon — the far-right activist better known as Tommy Robinson — as an adviser, Farage made clear that he could set up a rival outfit.
“If you say to the Great British public, ‘We’re not actually leaving after March 29, we’ve pushed it on for another year, or two years,’ then I think the attitude of half the country towards the political class will be sulphurous. “In those circumstances a pro-Brexit political party, without people like Stephen Yaxley-Lennon in it, could stun everybody with its first couple of polling results.” Farage said he and his allies are in touch with David Canzini — an aide to the Tory election strategist Sir Lynton Crosby — who has helped to co-ordinate the “Chuck Chequers” campaign against Theresa May’s Brexit deal.
Canzini has been working with Stewart Jackson, a former aide to David Davis, while Crosby continues to advise Boris Johnson.
John Buckley- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
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Interesting article above from the Sunday Times, apart from a couple of mistruths.
1. Tommy Robinson ( or whatever you want to call him ) has not been “employed” by UKIP. He gives his “advice” freely and receives no remuneration whatsoever from the party.
2. Tommy Robinson is not “in” UKIP if indeed this is what Farage is inferring. He is not a member, never has been and is never likely to be.
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Hmm. Yes, John. I struggle to understand the reason for your post. Perhaps you'll allow me my own bit of pedantry?
1. There is no such word as 'mistruth' in either of my dictionaries. I think you're looking for 'untruth'.
2. However, your first point is not in any way representative of an untruth. The word 'employ' has a perfectly legitimate second meaning as to use or utilise thus it is perfectly acceptable to state that Yaxley-Lennon was employed as an advisor.
3. Farage is not inferring anything. To infer means to deduce or conclude something from something said or done. You probably mean imply. Whether Yaxley-Lennon is in UK or not as a member, it hardly invalidates Farage's point. The very fact that he has been given the status as an advisor surely demonstrates a strong enough association to give rise to concerns.
To borrow the Cap'n's favourite conclusion - Just Saying!
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
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That is one definition of 'employ' John, another more appropriate one might be 'TO USE'
Arte et Marte
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Interesting interpretation of words here, firstly I'm sure Tommy is not being paid but I clearly remember Batten putting it to the membership that Tommy be made an exception to the rules and allowed into the party which seems to make him a member.