howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Bob Whysman wrote:
Whatever happens the only outcome eventually will be
if the strength of the hysteria which is being generated, is channeled into making it work.
Do nothing and nothing happens!
More importantly if the people in charge have the ability to make it work.
Getting back to the dreaded Raab he talks of how the £39 billion can/will be spent but the Chancellor has repeatedly said that the money has to be paid over with or without a deal.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,821
My pointless Christmas wish is for the media to concentrate on fresh real news rather than the endless speculation and repeated theories about Brexit that are trotted out by reporters and pundits. The TV news seems to consist of Brexit or America and not much else.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Quote from Raab.
"The UK will adopt a ‘continuity’ approach, recognising EU regulatory standards on day 1 of Brexit, and taking an intelligence-led approach to enforcement rather than checking every truck from Europe. Likewise, on exit, "
What does he think happens now?
Reginald Barrington
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- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,235
I think the word continuity explains that one Howard!
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Continuity happens now Reg, Raab is implying that he has come up with a new idea.
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:Continuity happens now Reg, Raab is implying that he has come up with a new idea.
Pretty sure the word continuity covers that one as well, by definition that is.
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Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
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Charlie's latest tweet says "In Commons seeking assurances that the ramping up of preparations means we will be ready on day one deal or no deal. Ministers say they will be fully ready and prepared for every eventuality." So that's OK then; or is it?
To me, being prepared for every eventuality implies contingency measures, which have a habit of costing money and which may not be required at all, or not for some time. So a major question is, assuming such measures are actually possible in the time available anyway: who's going to pay - commerce or government?
I suspect I know which blinkered option government has in mind, but am happy to be enlightened otherwise - a Christmas announcement of government-funded apprenticeship scheme for freight forwarders, underwriting of Transit and Import Deferment (credit card account for paying duty) guarantees and re-introduction of Postponed Accounting for VAT (so you don't have to pay it and claim it back 2 months later) would all hit the spot.
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Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 3,008
Shock news. Leavers in league with the Russians:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46630723'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,698
Good to see The Department for Exiting the European Union is happy to put out responses of this quality. Seriously, full of internal inconsistencies, mis-contextualisation of facts, public washing of hands etc.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/223729
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/229963
both included in the interests of balance, but unlikely to leave anyone any the wiser as to the outcomes we can expect in March 2019 or March 2021ray hutstone likes this
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Bob Whysman
- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
- Posts: 1,934
Weird Granny Slater wrote:
Nah WGS......he just wants to be everyone’s friend!
Do nothing and nothing happens.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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The second petition in 3049 stresses the rights of citizens from member states to stay here after we leave and the same applies to UK citizens in the EU. However that is dependent on Parliament passing what most see as a polished turd into law which seems unlikely.
The PM made a promise to those people but it is unlikely she will be around to protect them and if we renege on the £39 billion then our citizens in the EU may get the order of the boot.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Very predictable unfortunately.
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,987
Yet another mad letter from someone who knows nothing about export/import procedures. Another fool who would not last two minutes filing necessary pieces of paper at Dover!
In passing, I have had some experience of 'just in time' deliveries with my children.
I tend to like their birthday presents to be delivered 'just in time' so that do not have to store them, clogging up their bedroom with large parcels, in the days leading up to their birthday. This involves me finding out how long they will take to deliver and posting on an appropriate date.
At Christmas for some reason I find that my supply-chain tends to take longer but cunningly I post a little earlier to take this into account. I wonder if this might go some way to providing a solution to manufacturers post-Brexit i.e. if it's going to take longer to get there, send it off earlier?
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Am I right in thinking that Lord Bamford believes all imports/exports including Australia come through Dover?
Regarding "just in time" trading Honda in Swindon keep only 15 minutes worth of parts at their factory at any one time, 350 trucks a day deliver to them so nothing to do with ordering things earlier.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:
Regarding "just in time" trading Honda in Swindon keep only 15 minutes worth of parts at their factory at any one time, 350 trucks a day deliver to them so nothing to do with ordering things earlier.
Yes it is Howard. You can keep 15 minutes of parts in your factory if they have taken 5 hours, 5 weeks or even 5 years in transit as long as you have factored in the delivery time.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,821
Surely any sensible well run business has parts in stock, unless they have money problems and can not get credit. It is called forward planning much like those who live in a rural area always has a cupboard full in case of bad weather or illness.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Oh no it isn't Bob!! Car parts can come through four different member states to get here and at present no customs formalities to worry about only bad weather on the channel or strikes in France.
Should we leave with no deal and have to clear goods at different frontiers it is pot luck how long it will take to get through.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,987
Looks like Brexit has also driven Adonis mad Howard?
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,033
There are other, non-Straits ports handling intra-EU trade of course. The question is, is there the extra tonnage to support their longer routes..?
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
it depends if its boxed or not button moon,
Do nothing and nothing happens.
