Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:People leaving us in droves.
Twaddle. They might be leaving in 'droves' but if so they are coming in in even larger 'droves'.
We ONLY had an extra quarter of a million people in the UK due to immigration last year
"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Captain Haddock wrote:Twaddle. They might be leaving in 'droves' but if so they are coming in in even larger 'droves'.
We ONLY had an extra quarter of a million people in the UK due to immigration last year
and all will be Labour voters one day .
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
you two running scared then.#549 and #550
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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"I simply don’t accept that we can’t reach an agreement that works for us and works for the EU.”
Excellent negotiating position! I must try that at the next auction I go to.
'Dear Auctioneer, I simply don't accept that there is a price too high for me to pay to buy you stuff'
I don't see how this can possibly go wrong.
Kier Starmer (Barrister and Head of DPP)
VERSUS David Davis ( London Business School, master's degree in Business (1971–73),Harvard University (Advanced Management Program 1984–85). I know who I would prefer to negotiate!
"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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i don't trust those two,i would like to see sweeny todd doing the job.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I didn't hear it myself but i'm told that Boris Johnson said on Radio 4 that he expects the UK to leave the single market and customs union. If so not much point to the negotiations.
Paul M- Registered: 1 Feb 2016
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Every point Howard. Access to the single market is the only big gain for us and all the leverage the EU negotiators have to get a deal that suits them. If they think it's not a big deal for us or that we will concede we won't get what we ask for then it strengthens our hand. For once mad Boris has said the right thing.
Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,027
Of course we're leaving the Single Market and the customs union - that's what leaving the EU means! But there is every point in negotiating access to the Single Market and also in negotiating how we trade with countries physically to the east of it, and so on. One trick is not to let Dover, Cheriton, Calais, Dunkerque and Cocquelles come to a grinding halt.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Button wrote:One trick is not to let Dover, Cheriton, Calais, Dunkerque and Cocquelles come to a grinding halt.
Which is in NO-ONE'S interest.
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"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,027
Gloomy indeed it is. However, I'm disappointed at the factual inaccuracies in Vince Cable's reported comments.
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John Buckley
- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
- Posts: 615
OMG!! We're all doomed obviously, where are my pills?
Oh, hang on, I nearly started to look around the house for old bits of gold to sell in order to survive the obvious Armageddon that is shortly about to befall us all until I realised that this report was from credible sources known as "experts"!
No doubt as efficient as those at the CBI, IMF and Bank of England etc.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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never mind john,its all fake news from the leavers party
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,796
John Buckley wrote:
No doubt as efficient as those at the CBI, IMF and Bank of England etc.
The trouble with the above groups is they are the same as the rest of us they have an agenda deliberate or not. I do not trust anything that bankers say as they seem to be the worst of the lot especially if they are from Europe.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Whoever leads the negotiations hasn't a great hand to play with and the EU team know that a hard Brexit won't happen unless they force it on us. Ruth Davidson has now made it clear that all of her MPs want to stay in the single market with free movement continuing as before.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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Free movement should not be a problem if the proviso that there is a job to go to together with a reasonable knowledge of the country's language is part of the criteria or you have enough money in the bank to live on for a year.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Jan Higgins wrote:Free movement should not be a problem if the proviso that there is a job to go to together with a reasonable knowledge of the country's language is part of the criteria or you have enough money in the bank to live on for a year.
Even if someone can fully support themselves there is still a strain on public services, everyone needs a doctor, dentist school places for children and as we know all these things are currently under funded.
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Bob Whysman
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Do nothing and nothing happens.
