Captain Haddock
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BBC Europe Editor Katya Adler revealed the real reason behind the European Union's Brexit threats is that Brussels is "terrified" of the trading competition the UK will create against the bloc.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/916958/Brexit-news-update-latest-UK-EU-Michel-Barnier-BBC-Brexitcast-Katya-Adler?utm_source=applenews"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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#1492, you can get them in argos for a tenor.
Keith Sansum1
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Do they sing in Argos?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Courtesy of the Telegraph.
Ever since the Brexit referendum, one enormous question has overshadowed all others. How can we completely leave the EU while still retaining access to our largest single export market, worth £230 billion a year, eight per cent of our GDP? For six months Theresa May assured us that we would remain “within” the market. But at Lancaster House in January 2017 she slammed the door on that by saying that she wanted us to leave the single market while somehow continuing to have “frictionless” access to it. All we have really heard since then is the sound of more doors slamming, on both sides. After 11 months of talking we still haven’t resolved two of the three problems the EU made a condition on negotiations moving on, including the Northern Irish border. The EU has made clear that, by our choosing to become “a third country”, border controls are inevitable. We have of necessity half-agreed a “transition period”, of a further 21 months up to December 2020, to put those border controls in place. But after October this year all negotiations will be at an end. We still haven’t begun to unravel all the complexities of how our major economic sectors can continue trading with the EU once the transition is over, from chemicals, pharmaceuticals and aviation to the motor industry. These alone are worth nearly £100 billion a year.
Mrs May still gives us not a clue of what she means by that “deep and special relationship” she hopes we might have. Yet all this and much more has now to be resolved by October. The EU has slammed the door on our retaining those “passporting rights” that helped to make London the financial centre of the EU. We haven’t begun to negotiate for those “Third Country Operator” certificates needed to allow our airliners to continue flying in EU airspace, or even how we replace the EU licences that allow us to drive in EU countries; let alone what happens when we drop out of the Common Agricultural and Fisheries Policies next year. Mrs May still gives us not a clue of what she means by that “deep and special relationship” she hopes we might have in the future. Yet all this and much more has now to be resolved by October, in just eight months, for two of which, July and August, Brussels will be on holiday.
It is hardly surprising that others are now beginning to realise that if only we had chosen to remain like Norway in the European Economic Area, most of these problems need never have arisen. But Mrs May has again slammed the door on that. So where does she think this will leave us? Or is she so lost in wishful thinking that she hasn’t actually got the faintest idea?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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and dance keith
Bob Whysman
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Brian Dixon wrote:not a commie howard , just 60% European.
That makes you a Brexit mongrel in the dog world Brian.
Are you a stayer or a ‘goer?’
Do nothing and nothing happens.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Interesting comment from the CEO of the UK chamber of shipping suggesting that Government figures are more interested in point scoring off each other than addressing a very serious issue.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/14/dover-could-suffer-20-mile-permanent-traffic-jam-after-brexitBrian Dixon- Location: Dover
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yeah we had [dover that is,] had a 7 mile one last night.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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#1499, bob I am 60% European that's a majority init so it makes me a stayer/remainer ok
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The issue of the US dumping dodgy grub on us as part of a trade deal has arisen before, no wonder talks are being kept secret.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/17/revealed-us-uk-rightwing-thinktanks-talks-to-ditch-eu-safety-checksCaptain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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This is probably why anyone I know always takes enough food to sustain themselves whenever they visit the States. #ProjectFear (trans Atlantic edition)
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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All coming down to who has the most money now. Farage will lead the "hard brexit" campaign with the money from Arron Banks and other wealthy Eurosceptics whilst "Open Britain" probably lead by Lord Adonis with dosh from George Soros and various hedge fund managers will campaign to stay in the single market or European free trade area.
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:All coming down to who has the most money now. Farage will lead the "hard brexit" campaign with the money from Arron Banks and other wealthy Eurosceptics whilst "Open Britain" probably lead by Lord Adonis with dosh from George Soros and various hedge fund managers will campaign to stay in the single market or European free trade area.
and the LEFT
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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There is definitely a mood swing in the Labour party and they know that most MPs across the board support having access to the single market. They have to be careful about how they go about it, I would suggest a ballot of party members which would most certainly give them the support they need in order to go public.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-5405821/Emily-Thornberry-hints-Labour-backing-remaining-customs-union.htmlhoward mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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"The task of Conservatism is not to 'roll back the frontiers of the State', but to re-establish the frontiers of the nation State, and to reanimate the natural hostility that we feel, towards laws that are imposed on us by people with whom we do not in our heart of hearts belong" Roger Scruton
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
