Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
plausible though,after stagecoach's time table route cock up.
Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,256
Nice idea indeed but DDC only run the bus shelters not the bus services, might make it a little trickier to implement!
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
I bet you will not be able to uses your bus pass
Gary39- Registered: 7 Jul 2017
- Posts: 451
I wonder if Aycliffe will be classed as a village

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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
if it is, it probably be a loop service.
Guest 1819- Registered: 22 Aug 2016
- Posts: 10
I find these bus passes a total farce. You have people that own their own homes, run cars and are unable through the money they have to claim council tax benefits and yet scrounge a bus pass and take free travel.
If you can afford that which I have outlined then you shouldn't be scrounging off the council tax payer.
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,869
I wonder if dave b will make use of his bus pass and claim any relevant benefits when the time comes or will he say no thank you.
I have a bus pass but have not used it in the last couple of years so I doubt I have cost the taxpayer anything except the initial admin cost. BTW I do not own a car and pay the council tax that they demand out of my pension.

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Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,915
Just on elections
I'm a bit like Howard these days
We have suffered from absent cllrs
And Labour cllrs working against the community assoc
Other lab cllrs unwilling to speak to the assoc
Which I find strange standing in elms vale and Maxton which is a marginal between lab and tory
I started and got elected through working
With the local community
I think both the main parties have a lot to learn and not going to get the results they expect
. I have been asking the local parties for 2 years to involve themselves with the community assoc but most refused
Of course this is choice
Just as much as its choice for locals not to vote for them
Lots of locals are saying exactly that
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Reg
My understanding is that Stagecoach run most of the bus stops/shelters with KCC/DDC responsible for the few that are left.
Brian
A loop service is possible in town but the idea is district wide so I cannot see how that would be practical.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
howard, stagecoach are rumored on doing a loop service, Aycliffe town center Aycliffe.
Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,256
True Howard around 50 are the responsibility of DDC.
Another snippet Form the Labour manifesto:
"So, to fund improvements to your district, we may have to make small increases in parking charges and other fees."
Arte et Marte
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,705
Not having received any of the political parties manifestos I make no judgement ... yet
On a different not RB, how would you fund improvements?
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While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,056
Firstly Ross it might be an idea if we had a wish list of things which might actually improve the district including how any improvement will be measurable? Over the years I've heard loads of suggestions mostly, whilst well intentioned, a case of chucking good public money after bad in the hope that they might make a 'difference'.
I well remember the
hundreds of thousands being spent in the district on the 'Olympic Celebrations' which would (amongst other things like getting the whole town rally fit!) 'obviously' lead to an increase in uptake of future overnight stays in the district when celebration visitors realised what a wonderful place to visit it was.
At Scruitiny, DDC officers admitted that they had no idea what the present figures were so would have no base line to measure any increase.
No report has come to Council listing
any of the benefits of the money spent.
Instead DDC moves on to the next wizard idea.
I could go on but I've promised some people not to say anything until after the local elections!
Perhaps they should have left me inside the tent pissing out?

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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,869
I would like to see more or better managed money spent on our streets, if they are clean and tidy the whole town would immediately look better and more inviting at the moment it simply looks neglected. It would be costly at first but once under control the cost would go down as there would be less to do.
By managed I mean send street cleaners after the bin men not a couple of hours before, definitely not send a cleaning vehicle down roads that are lined with cars so only the occasional driveway entrances get swept while the majority of weeds and rubbish are missed.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
I would like to see more attention given to St Radigunds .Some of the properties are like tips .The roads need resurfing .Hillside is a night mare.
I heard of another shop closing on Good Friday for good .Been trading for years .Still as long as we have nail bars and takeaway outlets we are fine.

Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,915
Don't get me on that Jan,,,,,,
since 1999 we havnt had road sweeper up here or roads around as they concentrate on town
I pay council tax as others do living in this area
shouldn't I get a reduction?
it appears now if the greens do a little work in elmsvale Maxton they could unseat the labour candidate and let the tory in
or even with the seat themselves
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Guest 2893- Registered: 29 Sep 2018
- Posts: 2
I imagine Mr McS thinks I’m a paper councillor because we haven’t met (shame) and I don’t live in the ward. Oh dear, foreigner! Yes, well, other side of the Folkestone Road. Maybe he thinks I don’t know my way around. Well, I’ve friends in the ward, visit the Hub from time to time and have been tramping the streets recently with leaflets so I’d say I know most of them. Obviously living 200 yards away from the nearest part is a huge drawback. However, I have attended and contributed to a great many meetings of the town council and done my best to make sure that the interests of the ward are well represented, along with the other Labour councillors.
Comments seem to suggest only women have been allowed to stand by Labour! There are in fact several men standing for Labour in Dover. I will leave you to find out who. The numbers, I think, for District Council Labour candidates in the wards of Dover town itself are 5 women and 3 men. How many women Tory Councillors are there for the whole district? Not many is the answer. I haven’t noticed many comments on here about that.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,869
I have only met one of my many local councillors in the last ten years or so, that makes the rest invisible to a certain extent. Having said that I read about what some of them do or do not do and vote accordingly.
As for Miriam's comment about the lack of women Tory Councillors it does not matter one iota so long as whoever stands is worth voting for, positive discrimination is not always a good idea.
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Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,705
Bob as you know I agree in most part with you on the subject of spending public money. I also agree with you that in order to assess success of any spend there needs to be agreed success criteria, baselines, measurement methodology and a robust benefits case before we start. Of course when it comes to public funding it is not all about a financial return and it is important that social criteria are given an equal weight when assessing spend viability.
I agree with Jan etc. that we need to see public money spent on public infrastructure such as roads and pavements, as well as ensuring street cleansing is properly planned and executed and not on vanity projects like Ingletons chair lift
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Cllr Wood rightly points out that she has been on the town council representing the soon to be defunct Maxton, Elms Vale and Priory ward, now would she advise how she voted on giving taxpayers money to the "Love Dover" project and the reason/s for voting that way.
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