Keith Sansum1
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Neil
I needed my latest post as in happy to put my points but when my deceased family Is raised as a reason g
Why i shouldn't post that's one step to far .
Iv cooled down now and I return to your latest post .
In all honesty Neil I would probably share Andy Burnham would make a good leader , but I'm unsure of he even wants it.
Like Neil says with the present internal wranglings it's unlikely to happen even if he did .
This post is on Labour and I have been as critical on the conservative post, no more so though than many other posters .
Beer gate may not be important , but just like Boris it's about Is he fit to lead .
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Just seen a post from Vic Matcham .He is saying lonely on the forum at this time .Is it any wonder as some people mis understand posts .Im sure our editor would step in if posts are offensive .My last post re Labour .I have a lot of respect for some Labour Councillors past and present.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Sue
I have worked with you over the years without any great problem ,
But what your post indicated with no misunderstanding , is that you don't wish to hear my view with the other poster , and that is completely fine .
Indeed I was a labour cllr just the same as you were s lib dem cllr before joining the conservatives .
That to is fine .
We may not agree all the time , it would be boring if we did , I will give my views and by all means give yours I read them and answer if required .
You have an opinion as does the other poster you mention on whether or not partygate/beer gate
Is high on the agenda of people .
We may differ on the view but I have never asked you to stop posting , in fact quite the opposite
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Weird Granny Slater
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'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Button
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I thought Mr Khan was a Tory?
(Not my real name.)
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Yes
The posts above are about both major parties who have got caught up in this .
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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'It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a basic model degenerate MP in possession of a "you got caught" card, must be in want of an equivalence.'
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
victor matcham- Registered: 5 Oct 2021
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We do not vote alot but if we did both partys are not at their best but still be ------for us.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Quite amusing the labour leaflet in Lancashire saying that it's a two horse race (Tory and lab) in by election
And the greens won it lol
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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At least he finally worked it out, unlike most Conservatives (or Labour people for that matter).
'...
the Conservative party, being neither meaningfully socially conservative nor particularly interested in using an 80 seat majority, exists for the sole purpose of keeping Labour out of office...'
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It doesn't conserve...'
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It doesn’t reverse...'
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Conservative MPs are mostly to the left of Labour voters on social issues....'
(I'd say that these MPs, and their electorates, are so politically dim they don't realise how Left they actually are.)
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/-what-are-the-conservative-party-for-Paul Watkins and Captain Haddock like this
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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ray hutstone wrote:Puerile humour is great but it doesn't remove reality.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Weird Granny Slater wrote:
Sorry old boy but your posts make me laugh in much the same way as your pseudonym does.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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That's good you two bother each other .
I think local people will take the easy route and just not vote , which is what Boris (if he's still there at next election ) is hoping for .
As for our Mr Starmer he's still expelling those that he disagrees with , and parachuting in candidates against the wishes of the local membership .
It's going to be hard struggle for labour , but maybe the next two by elections will show if support is returning to labour
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Brian Dixon
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all ways negative arnt you keith. lol
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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I would be happy Brian for you to tell me none of the above is true Mr Starmer isn't doing these things .
Even Neil agrees with these issues
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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a good clear is good keith, it will make them more electible.
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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Could Starmer do more to build a vision? Yes. Could he concentrate more on external rather than internal politics? Absolutely. But one thing I am absolutely sure of is that if Johnson remains, and Labour and the Lib Dems work together, the Tories are out.
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