Keith Sansum1
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Neil
This is where we differ .
Although I'm often baffled by Brians comments , you Neil are the geezer getting behind Mr Starmer .
Your correct on internal politics ,but it is where Mr Starmer has decided to go
If we want to elect a luke warm second rate Tory party under Starmer then stick with him .
Labour shoujd be romping home , every election
But that's not the case.
We are not seeing the red walk return .
In fact under interview locals on some of those areas feel better represented under the Tories
That in itself tells a story
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Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
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Oh goody. He's so cuddly, and filled with good intentions.
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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and needs a good haircut. lol
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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He's the last thing we want .
It's bad enough we are stuck with Mr Starmer
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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beggers cant be choosers keith.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Splitting your vote even more Brian will keep Boris and his lot in number 10
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Button
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Looks to me like a still from Harry Potter and the Houses of Parliament.
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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This is where Labour needs to invest a little bit of time in basic media training. This is not difficult.
Q: Can a woman have a penis?
A: With the country facing an economic shock of unimaginable severity, we are focusing all our attention on addressing the cost of living crisis.
It's that simple!
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Just ignore it. It's the preocupation of idiots, egged on by the Barclay Brothers pet organ. Doesn't really merit a response.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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keith. no split here at all
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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There will be a split if Blair decides to make this a political party which Labour can not afford to happen .
Any votes taken away from them is likely to keep them out of number 10
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Neil Moors wrote:...It's that simple!
That is only simple to simpletons.
Around half Labour's voters will be women. It's increasingly obvious that GI laws and policies produce a conflict in rights detrimental to women. Plus, if Labour politicos cannot be trusted on a basic biology question (
a question the party has invited on itself, btw), then why trust them on anything more complex?
Labour is shafting its more conservative traditional voters so as to keep its metropolitan progressives onside. Its desire to so this while pretending it isn't is increasingly cringe. It cannot have both.
(The Tories, so far, have largely escaped any flak, through its usual policy of saying one thing, doing another, and watching the 'opposition' flounder.)
Simple.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Neil
Whilst I agree on the cost of living
Lab has spent some time on partygate .
Whilst I support that move, i suspect there is a large number of the district's population that doesn't feel it to be so high on the agenda
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Button- Location: Dover
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Keith Sansum1 wrote:Neil
Whilst I agree on the cost of living
Lab has spent some time on partygate .
Whilst I support that move, i suspect there is a large number of the district's population that doesn't feel it to be so high on the agenda
That's Mrs Elphicke's view also: "The focus of this Government must be laser-like in tackling the consequences of Covid & Ukraine on the cost of living. Many constituents tell me that the cost of living concerns them above all else. "
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Button
Of course it's elphickes view , she just follows Boris .
This is about what do locals feel to be important
But of course labour has thrown a lot at partygate
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Mrs E's contribution (if we take it at face value) is predictable, but revealing nonetheless:
first she omits a primary driver: energy policy (net zero, renewables, etc.)
then she raises two as if they were mere events that happened, rather than the results of deliberate policy decisions: covid panic (magic money forests), and Ukraine (sanctions self-harm)
All three had foreseeable (nay, foreseen) disastrous economic consequences, and all are backed by all major parties (accompanied by the usual 'not soon enough' / 'not hard enough' / 'not big enough' 'opposition': no way out for LabLibDemGreenSNP here).
Guaranteed she and all other politicos won't be 'laser-like' in identifying themselves as guilty partners. And by posing a 'cost of living crisis' as a kind of Pompeii, rather than a man-made economic disaster, she thinks nobody'll notice and she'll escape with the rest of them.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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So we head to the general election
People asking who do I vote for ?
I don't want Boris to remain
Not a fan of Starmer
And realising voting for smaller parties could just keep Boris in number ten.
Although I argued at every level of the labour party that having women only shortlists .
They still enforced them (and Dover was one of the seats we had it imposed)
With it being made illegal
Labour at this general election has dropped the women only short lists.
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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'
Sir Keir Starmer is to publish a book about Britain under a Labour government, originally written as a private collection of his thoughts, in the face of claims that he has failed to communicate his vision.'
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/keir-starmer-to-set-out-his-vision-in-book-0bdsckfpj?utm_medium
In yet another first for the Forum, WGS has obtained a preview of an early design for the gaudy Knight's bookcover.
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