Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,693
Why is it worse/desperate?
What did you do to encourage local enterprise whilst you were in office, or since?
What did you really do whilst in office? What did you actually achieve? What difference did you make?
Or were you just too busy being the self opinionated bete noire of the local Tories to be ar**ed to really do anything else?
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Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,823
Oh wow
Whilst I may not agree with bobs views at times.
Really should be able to be critical
In many areas Dover is struggling
We can continue to ignore it
Or decide Dover deserves better
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,848
What did I actually do?
More than most Ross. More than most.
Don't get the person and the persona confused.
"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,693
Keith, as you well know I do not ignore it and try to quietly do something about it, either directly, or through encouragement or influence (if I have any).
There is nothing wrong with constructive criticism, I actively encourage this as no one has a monopoly on good ideas or solutions to problems
However, I get very tired of people pontificating about how what others do isnt very good etc. but seem to do little or nothing themselves to make a difference
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,693
Fair point re person and persona Bob - though not sure I am confusing them
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Gary39- Registered: 7 Jul 2017
- Posts: 446
I live at Aycliffe and have yet to see any improvements up here.. Taken two years for my petition just to get plans through for extra parking. One meeting in two years.. DDC are a joke. At Aycliffe DDC take and take from us but nothing in return.. I actually started chasing this up in 2014 but my local councillor at the time did not even have the decency to any of my e-mails.. The excuse the e-mail system was not working for 2 years..
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,017
I think Bob has achieved a lot .His tongue in the cheek comments often get noticed.The way he works people take notice.
Dover Pilot- Registered: 28 Jul 2018
- Posts: 342
Ross Miller wrote:Why is it worse/desperate?
What did you do to encourage local enterprise whilst you were in office, or since?
What did you really do whilst in office? What did you actually achieve? What difference did you make?
Or were you just too busy being the self opinionated bete noire of the local Tories to be ar**ed to really do anything else?
I remember Charlie instructing Bob to sort out the Regent and electric car charging points but not sure if one charging point at the new Aldi can really be spun as making a difference
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,848
Dover Pilot wrote:I remember Charlie instructing Bob to sort out the Regent and electric car charging points but not sure if one charging point at the new Aldi can really be spun as making a difference
I can assure you that 'our' Charlie has never been so silly as to ask me to sort out
anything .
But enough already. It's the time of peace and goodwill towards all men. Let's leave the sniping for a few days? Merry Christmas etc.
"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,225
Having watched some of the meetings, Bob was one of the few who turned up having clearly researched his brief and could hold the chamber to account, often overruled and out voted , but he did more than most to reign in the collective stupidity of our council, as to to the financial benefit of that who can say. However he saved us countless thousands by never claiming entitled expenses.
As for what one councillor can achieve on their own, post #64 pretty much Sums it up:
Do not ignore it and try to quietly do something about it, either directly, or through encouragement or influence (if I have any).
There is nothing wrong with constructive criticism, I actively encourage this as no one has a monopoly on good ideas or solutions to problems.
But of course if your politics are biased you wouldn't see the EV charging points for the trees!
Arte et Marte
Beccy- Location: Dover
- Registered: 3 Sep 2017
- Posts: 12
Ref: #68
The mature trees in the co-op/Aldi carpark (including the two memorials from WWII) were all healthy (if a little neglected) and a more sympathetic approach to accommodation the majority of them could have soooooo easily found... THE electric car CHARGING was only brought into play after the first application fell.... So I am not surprised at them sneaking in a change of plans.... Meanwhile we have all lost out from the benefits of the removal of our 'pollution busting' friends.... xxx
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,693
Bob - we really must catch up in the new year over a coffee - you have my email so drop me a line when you are free and going to be in Dover.
RB - all politics is biased - but seriously if I have any politics, rather than bias, it is communitarian - as for electric charging points for EVs I think they are a great idea and should be as widely available as they are in The Netherlands, for example, but not free
Merry Yule
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"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,225
Ross with ref: EV's it is the incentivisation, it costs so little to provide it free and the return on that cost could be repaid environmentally by the take up of an EV by just 1 or 2 people, but however it happens something needs to change the majority mindset.
Merry Christmas to you and yours Ross have a good one.
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Arte et Marte
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
some one needs to rewire the seating in parliament,
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,782
Here is the latest supposedly from my MP but written by someone who has no idea how to grab my attention, I gave up after paragraph 2 it was so boring.
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Better healthcare, safer streets and real investment
Last week the new Parliament finally got into full swing. The debate on the Queen’s speech has seen the House of Commons focussing on Boris Johnson’s plans for the Brexit Britain we will build. Not simply better healthcare and more police but a land where the environment, productivity, aspiration and opportunity are at the heart of what the government seeks to achieve.
Investment in the infrastructure we need to see a renaissance of regions. Communities like ours are at the heart of the Prime Minister’s programme.
Everyone knows we’ve needed to see greater investment in broadband so that our villages are properly connected. And investment in our roads – not least dualling the A2 and sorting out the problems of the Whitfield roundabout which are causing so much concern to the villagers who live there. I used my first question in Parliament to ask for a debate on the urgent need for roads investment in east Kent.
Yet it’s not just investment in infrastructure we need but investment in education and skills too. For too long further education colleges have lost out. Yet we know here in Dover & Deal institutions like East Kent college are critical to bringing opportunities to our young people and helping to change lives. That’s why greater investment in our schools and colleges is vital if we are to energise the country and build an aspiration nation that will help drive our nation’s independent future.
There is a renewed energy about the government since the election and a genuine interest for new ideas to make a Britain that works for everyone and for the environment.
Jobs and money are also at the heart of the Government’s programme. That’s why a smooth Brexit where trade continues to flow freely through the Port of Dover matters not just to Dover but to Britain as a whole.
Last week I went to see port bosses to hear their plans for the future – and to make the case to consider greater investment going forward and to minimise job losses from the proposed restructuring.I am concerned to do all I can to safeguard jobs and I look forward to the Port of Dover progressing its investment, growth and jobs plans at pace to ensure that they make the most of the opportunities that lie ahead.
The port is not simply a cornerstone of our local economy, it is a key element of the beating heart of our international trade. Yet our local economy cannot just work for the Port. It must work for our many smaller and medium sized businesses here in Dover & Deal too.
I also had a positive meeting with Dover District Council leader Trevor Bartlett and his Cabinet to talk about plans for Dover town centre and support for retailers there, along with the importance of free village parking to help boost access to village shops.
The future of our country is about so much more than getting Brexit done. It’s about better healthcare, safer streets, improving life chances, investment in the future – and of relentless focus on the kind of Britain we can build in the decades to come.
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Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 2,979
Oh take me back to the days when a paragraph was a paragraph. A real paragraph. A subject and an elaboration. None of your tabloid 'if it's more than two sentences it's too long' nonsense. None of your pandering to the short-attention-span brigade. None of your 'they won't see the wood for the trees' mollycoddling. My old man used to say: 'If thou canst write and read a paragraph thou wilt do well in this world. If thou canst not, I'll take this stick to meet thy backside.' Believe me, when it's between a paragraph and a sore arse, it's a paragraph every time.
Mind you, there's a freaky, perhaps subversive, mixed metaphor in her twaddle: 'The port is not simply a cornerstone of our local economy, it is a key element of the beating heart of our international trade.' A stone in that cold, cold heart for sure.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
commonly known as waffle.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,782
Yet more waffle from her ghost writer, at least I got past paragraph 2 but gave up after " including a brand new hospital in Dover" which is simply a glorified clinic.....
"Building a strong, prosperous country together
Last week I delivered my maiden speech to the House of Commons. The first time a Member of Parliament rises to speak in the Chamber is a big moment – a chance to tell the House about their constituency, their predecessor and their priorities.
I spoke of the history of our area as the frontline – as the guardian, gateway and custodian of our nation. And the crucial part that Dover & Deal has to play as we leave the European Union and reclaim our independent place in the world.
Our community is not simply home to the greatest people. It is home to the White Cliffs too – and their timeless values of liberty, freedom, justice, faith and friendship, community and caring for others.
For us, it is not just about what we can do. It is about who we are.
As is traditional for a Maiden Speech, I spoke of my predecessor’s service and record of delivery. Charlie Elphicke’s election success in 2010 was one of the stand-out results of that election. His trademark in politics was time and again winning against the odds and delivering for our area. Early on, he fought to see off the planned sale of the Port of Dover to the French or whoever. With the support of Dame Vera Lynn, the sell-off was ditched and a ground-breaking People’s Port delivered at the docks.
Since 2010, more than £500 million of investment has swept into Dover and Deal, including a brand new hospital in Dover and the fast train to Deal. He also took up more than 23,000 cases for local residents.
Building on this record is a high hurdle for any new MP. Yet build on it I will to deliver on our community’s priorities – stronger borders, free-flowing trade, more investment in roads and rail, better healthcare, more jobs and money.
I also care deeply about improving opportunity, prosperity and life chances. I am proud to have started life in the safety and security afforded by a council house. My education at a Catholic faith primary and a grammar school transformed my life chances - and indeed my life.
Growing up in the 1980s, I was one of a generation who benefited from a time of national ambition, shared prosperity and opportunity for all, where hard work could bring rewards. I am committed to providing for others the tools for social mobility and opportunity that were given to me: good-quality and affordable housing, help for those in need, faith, grammar schools, economic growth and shared prosperity.
This is an historic time for our nation. As your representative, I am looking forward to the independent, successful, prosperous and strong country that we can build together in the decades to come."
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
glad you agree its waffle jan.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,782
Brian Dixon wrote:glad you agree its waffle jan.
I always said Charlie's were waffle and Natalie's, so obviously written by the same person, are just as bad.
I seldom bother to fully read posts/comments/emails from politicians, regardless of party, as they usually consist of we are perfect, we will do (or have done) almost everything you can possibly desire. Oh! I nearly forgot together with the opposition are wrong in whatever they plan or do.
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I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
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