Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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Thanks captain .Ive forgotten all I learnt.I was bit scared all those years ago.We had lots of USA bases in East Anglia after the war.I recall the locals saying we were paying back the War debt .Still a couple of my school chums married USA serviceman ,and I had the odd date or two.
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Bearing in mind that we have a special relationship with the only nation EVER to fire a nuclear weapon at another nation, and, bearing in mind, the unlikelihood of nuclear war (see the #81 authoritative post), and, bearing in mind, the cost of replacing Trident, and, bearing in mind, the title of this thread, and, bearing in mind, the national debt and deficit, and, bearing in mind, austerity has hit the low-paid when alternative options where and are still available, and, bearing in mind, Trident is no an independent weapon system (Lockheed Martin, USA), and, bearing in mind, the madness of firing one upon another nation - either as a pre-emptive strike or a retaliative strike, and, bearing in mind, that nuclear fall-out will have a negative effect on the global population irrespective of where in detonates, and, bearing in mind, that the UK is a signatory to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and therefore is obliged to promote and perform nuclear disarmement, isn't there a case for nuclear disarmament?
After all, a precedence has been set...
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/the-story-how-south-africa-voluntarily-gave-its-nuclear-23449
Useful reading: "Our contribution towards the goal of multilateral disarmament is and will
continue to be strong. We will take every opportunity to pursue our resolute commitment to a world without nuclear weapons." Ambassador Joanne Adamson. Source: Statement on Nuclear Disarmament
https://www.un.org/disarmament/search/?cx=017879155571300835259%3Aszhio91zphq&ie=UTF-8&q=&q=uk
Worth bearing in mind.
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Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
Captain Haddock
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Local Government info - from my e-mail in-box :-
Russian cyber-attack warning
The National Cyber Security Centre (NCSC) has warned council staff, electricity, gas and water firms, the Sellafield nuclear power plant, Whitehall departments and NHS hospitals to expect a Russian cyber-attack in retaliation for Britain’s tough stance against the country in the wake of the nerve agent attack in Salisbury. The key organisations have been told they could face attempts to steal the data of taxpayers and patients or "denial of service" attacks that could shut down their websites. Wiltshire County Council staff have been blocked from accessing their emails amid fears that Russian hackers are trying to infiltrate and disrupt the police probe into the deaths of Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia. A council spokesperson said it had been planning to introduce new security measures, but had brought them forward because of the Salisbury attack. The NCSC is currently advising.
The Sunday Times, Page: 1 Mail on Sunday, Page: 8 The Observer, Page: 12
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Bob Whysman
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Vic Matcham wrote:Must say I did not think this post would get the views in number and the points you all are putting over some I do not agree on ,but that does not matter after all I do not not know who is right or wrong .but it is one of the few post we get on the forum with some beef behind it,so thank you all for your views,but going back to my own I still think the same as I did on the first one,still no prove of anything.And even if it was true is it worth all the upset and lost of trade and good will it is causing ?As I said before I do feel very sorry for the members of the public and the police officer that ended up very ill over it.But only my view about it all.
Vic, try not to wind this thread down too soon......it would be a shame for it to go the route of your very interesting and much hallowed life story thread.
Time to reinstate it?
Do nothing and nothing happens.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
Bob Whysman- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
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Sue Nicholas wrote:Thanks captain .Ive forgotten all I learnt.I was bit scared all those years ago.We had lots of USA bases in East Anglia after the war.I recall the locals saying we were paying back the War debt .Still a couple of my school chums married USA serviceman ,and I had the odd date or two.
‘War debt settled in full’ then on the strength of the odd date or two Sue.........whatever do you mean?
Do nothing and nothing happens.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Thank you my life story might come back if members show they would like to read it.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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Bobi could answer that but not in a gentle lady like way.Sometthing :on the lines .Im very patriotic.
Weird Granny Slater
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:It doesn't help at a time both sides should calm down that the Foreign Secretary sets things off again.
The man's a magician. After all, he's wizard at pulling dissembling and obfuscatory rabbits out of that hat he doesn't wear, and he can turn a piglet into a pup at the drop of a sack.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Jan Higgins
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The Foreign Secretary is an embarrassment to his country and his party, one of those who engages mouth before brain.
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Guest 1416- Registered: 20 Nov 2014
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Here’s a couple of interesting links for you.
“… deep connections between Cambridge Analytica’s parent company Strategic Communication Laboratories (SCL Group) and the Conservative Party and military establishment, ‘Board members include an array of Lords, Tory donors, ex-British army officers and defense contractors. This is scandal that cuts to the heart of the British establishment.”
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BAnIE5rn-FoJ:https://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2018/03/20/scl-a-very-british-coup/+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk
SCL Group showcased to potential clients at the DSEi arms fair in 2005. The pitch included a demonstration of how the UK government could use the media to fool the British people in to the thinking a chemical plant accident had occurred which threatened central London.
The link to September 2005 article SCL Group at the UK's largest showcase for military technology
https://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/dispatches/2005/09/you_cant_handle_the_truth.html
Curious and curiouser…Very curious...
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A clear conscience is the sure sign of a bad memory.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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We have been away for a few days nice to see this still here,but still NO prove of who done it.
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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The High Court judgement granting permission for blood samples to be taken from the Skripals for testing by the OPCW contains some interesting information, not least the relevant evidence from scientists at Porton Down that their own analysis of blood samples 'indicated exposure to a nerve agent
or related compound. The samples tested positive for the presence of a Novichok class nerve agent
or closely related agent' (my emphasis). PD's language is cautious (obviously: they're scientists not politicians) and consistent with the, oft-repeated, line that the agent was 'of a type developed by Russia.' But May, Johnson et al have, as politicians with ulterior motives are wont to do, bullheadedly charged ahead of any existing evidence that will support their increasingly wild snortings.
https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/sshd-v-skripal-and-another-20180322.pdfGuest 1997 likes this
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Brian Dixon
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- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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if in doubt blame Russia, and then chuck out a few diplomats for show.
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Courtesy of the Sunday Telegraph.
Russian-owned television stations are using Britain as a hub to broadcast Kremlin propaganda and conspiracy theories about the Salisbury attack across Europe, the Telegraph can disclose. Two stations identified by EU officials as spreading “conspiracies” about “foreign politicians” are transmitting programmes from Russia to former Soviet republics with licences provided by Ofcom.
Both are registered at offices in central London. The broadcasts are causing serious concerns among Britain’s allies in countries that neighbour Russia, with one senior diplomat warning of a “strong disinformation campaign” being run through the channels, akin to the efforts launched by the Kremlin after funding rebel groups in eastern Ukraine, in an apparent attempt to stir up unrest among Russian-speaking minorities. One channel has been found to have breached Ofcom rules eight times in the last six years, but continues to operate using its British licence.
The breaches included an item urging viewers to sign a petition triggering a referendum on changing the Latvian constitution, along with a false claim that the message was endorsed by the Latvian electoral commission. It was also found in breach over comments by Vladimir Zhirinovsky, a Russian nationalist politician, broadcast in 2015, saying that Russia should “burn Kiev down”. “We will napalm them out,” he said.
Baiba Braže, Latvia’s ambassador to the UK, said Ofcom needed to “do more” to tackle the stations, and called for changes to EU rules to allow local regulators to intervene. Ofcom is reviewing the licences of Russia Today, the Kremlin-backed channel which broadcasts in the UK, but Ms Braže suggested the regulator had long failed to take effective action against worse offenders which made use of British licences to broadcast into the EU, but were not shown in this country. They were broadcasting “pure propaganda”, she said. EU regulations allow broadcasters to transmit throughout the union if they are registered in just one member state. The regulator in the “country of origin”, in this case the UK, is solely responsible for policing each broadcaster registered in its country, regardless of where the programmes are transmitted. Ofcom has been lobbying for the “country of origin” principle to remain in place after Brexit, boasting that Britain is home to “the world’s largest number of pan-European media companies”. Almost 400 of the 1,200 UK-licensed channels do not broadcast in this country, but Sharon White, the regulator’s chief executive, said in a speech last year that they must still “comply with our rules” which include broadcasting “impartial and accurate news”.
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