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Can we get back to what I posted or end it thank you.
Weird Granny Slater
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Satire's a perfectly valid response to something as serious as this and it may be the only sane response left from those of us on the outside who are the end point of those crazy people's decisions (and I don't just mean our own crazy people).
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Captain Haddock
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Following the award of the Nobel Peace Prize to then-US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger in 1973, Lehrer commented: “Political satire became obsolete.”
90 this week! (I've got all his stuff in vinyl, cassette, CD and now on the Brennan!)
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-03922-x
Is there something about mathematicians which compels them to take the piss and wind people up just for the LOL? I think we should be told.
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This gets ever more bizarre, had a few dodgy doner kebabs after closing time in the past but didn't end up in intensive care.
https://news.sky.com/story/salisbury-attack-yulia-and-sergei-skripals-relative-refused-entry-to-britain-11319366Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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Vic Matcham wrote:Can we get back to what I posted or end it thank you.
A two week war with Russia could cost £16 billion but probably just a third of that in lives lost. Back on thread everyone.
Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
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Captain Haddock wrote:A number on the Forum seem to have been at the Kool-Aid recently!
We'll see who's been 'drinking the Kool-Aid'. But should anyone still be naive or credulous enough to believe false flags belong in the realm of spy fiction or in the minds of conspiracy theorists, try this comprehensive account (from
Der Spiegel) of the German Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND, the Federal Intelligence Service) 'discovering' 'Russian' plutonium on a plane arriving from Moscow. Given the recent strange happenings in Ye Olde Sarum, the scenario might appear familiar. You'll need German, or an online translator ( try
https://www.deepl.com/translator ), but you'll see in the sub-heading the words 'ein großangelegter schwindel' which should be a clue. (Pullach was the BND's headquarters in 1995.)
https://www.scribd.com/document/199475797/Panik-Made-in-Pullach-Der-Spiegel-10-04-1995'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
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FWIW, just been listening to President of American Foreign Policy Council along with a couple of guys from US Embassy & Ukrainian Ambassador discussing Putin. I know whose version of the truth I choose to believe ........
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Captain Haddock wrote:FWIW, just been listening to President of American Foreign Policy Council along with a couple of guys from US Embassy & Ukrainian Ambassador discussing Putin. I know whose version of the truth I choose to believe ........
Pedant's corner here: Is it possible to have a
version of the truth? Isn't the truth the truth? Also, whilst I'm not ruling out Russian involvement, if you only take your soundings from the US and the Ukraine, aren't you guilty of bias?
Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
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The Bishop wrote:Pedant's corner here: Is it possible to have a version of the truth? Isn't the truth the truth?
Interesting question. Philosophers have been asking the same for millennia!
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Captain Haddock wrote:I know whose version of the truth I choose to believe ........
Try this version of the truth. The US Secretary of Defense, no less, recently (February) admitted that the US has no evidence that sarin was used by Syrian government forces in either 2013 or in 2017 (the supposed reason for the Shayrat US cruise missile attack):
https://apnews.com/bd533182b7f244a4b771c73a0b601ec5
An opinion piece here:
http://www.newsweek.com/now-mattis-admits-there-was-no-evidence-assad-using-poison-gas-his-people-801542'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
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IF you was going to bomb why open your mouth before you do it ,by doing what the U.S.A done ,told they are going to,makes them ready for it you say nothing ti
ll it is over and done with,and if you do not go a head with it which looks the case now you make yourself look like fools,
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There'll be a war going on between hawks and doves and various factions in US government, military and intelligence, with occasional loose-mouthed explosions from Trump. Either the doves'll will win, in which case expect US-led strikes on airfields etc. which will be pre-communicated to the Russians so they can get out of the way. Or the hawks'll win, in which case it's full-on for regime change and a speading conflict. And all the while May'll be sitting by the phone waiting to be told what she's doing.
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Reginald Barrington
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That's certainly A 'version of the truth'
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Sky News Breaking
The Russian military says the alleged chemical attack in Syria was "staged and directed by Britain"
4:00 PM - 13 Ap
Go home Russia. You are drunk ...................
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Really, there's so much wrong with that Guardian piece, not least the utter toothlessness of the modern incarnation of what used to be a half-decent newspaper. So I'll pick a couple of things from Mr Sedwill's letter (which, contrary to the Guardian's claim, contains no evidence at all, but simply a summary of 'evidence').
I note that the mysterious DS Bailey (or 'Police Sergeant' in the letter) has been relocated to the park bench (as a 'first responder') from which he had been summarily removed to Mr Skripal's house when people first began to smell a rat. Presumably this relocation is supposed to explain away the DS's relatively quick exit from hospital, since he wasn't after all anywhere near that nasty doorknob where the 'highest concentrations' were. A 'matter of fact' indeed.
How do you 'stockpile' 'small quantities' of anything? It's a contradiction in terms.
How would British intelligence know the GRU was hacking Ms Skripal's email accounts unless it had been monitoring those accounts itself? And if they were aware of 'Russian intelligence service interest' in the Skripals then is it just sheer incompetence that allowed Russia to get to them?
There are so many 'highly likelys', 'likelys', 'unlikelys' and 'highly unlikelys' in the letter that you could quite easily miss the wood for the trees, which is probably the intent. But here the Guardian's man tries to come to the rescue with a bit of insider knowledge that's worth quoting at length: 'the term 'highly likely' is one commonly used by the intelligence agencies when they believe something is 100% certain - since they are unwilling to express that opinion without a caveat in case of error'. Ah, that clinches it then. Except, since when did you need 'a caveat in case if error' when you are '100% certain' of something?
And still no explanation of how a couple of people can go on a 3 or 4 hour jaunt around Salisbury, taking in a drink at a pub and a meal at a pizza restaurant, after being exposed to a 'military-grade nerve agent' of 'high purity'.
Laughable.
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Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
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You certainly made me laugh granny!
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I see that having had 23 thrown out of the UK the Embassy has taken on WGS as an unpaid (?) intern.
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#177 - You seem to have unwittingly induced merriment from this forum's cognescenti of all things. That in itself ought to indicate something. The only thing I would say in response to your otherwise well reasoned post is that it's hard to blame the Guardian for reporting the news as it is presented. OK, it's not the beacon that it was in Rusbridger's day when liars like Aitken were brought to book, but it's still head and shoulders above the other bilge out there.
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Usual suspects outside Downing Street including that dreadful Emma Dent Coad of Grenfell Tower fame. N.B. Russian and Syrian flags.
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