Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Glad there isn’t a war in Europe or anything!
IF Labour were clever they would target this in the budget debate - see how many Tory hawks they could get to rebel, while damaging the Tories significantly with their core vote.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Jan Higgins wrote:If we could go back to well run services I would rather see my tax go up by 2p, especially if they included prescriptions and dentistry for free or a lot cheaper
Great news for you and many others (?) Jan, you can give as much as you like in extra money to the Government! See here:-
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/voluntary-payments-donations-to-government
Personally I don't trust them not to spaff it all up against the wall on benefits for the feckless or our bloated and inefficient NHS (noting that this year's pension increase alone will more than pay for mine and my carer's private health care coverage!)
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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Captain, we all know that the NHS top bosses waste money and manage to line their own pockets at our and their staff's expense. but I would hate a system that seems to be creeping in where only the affluent can get treatment because they can afford "private health care coverage".
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Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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Have to say Jan I agree with you
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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"I never thought that I would live to see the day when the Right Wing would become the cool ones giving the middle finger to the establishment, and the Left Wing becoming the sniveling, self-righteous twatty one's going around shaming everyone" John Lydon
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,053
I know betting odds don't reflect reality, but all the same the ones on how many seats the Tories will lose in the next General Election took me aback:
1 - 50 33:1
51 - 100: 14:1
101 - 150: 5:1
151 - 200: 3:1
201+: 1:2
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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With little choice this general election , and Neil living in hope ,
Doesn't hide well.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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[QUOTE="Keith Sansum1"]With little choice this general election , and Neil living in hope ,
Doesn't bode well.
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,870
Nor does repeating yourself, sorry could not resist.
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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Yes, the anticipated victory margin appears to be getting larger, not smaller. The Tory party needs to change leader, I think. It's the least most bonkers thing to do.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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It will take a lot more than change of leader, a complete change of their posh and financially well off image that is needed therefore representing the average voter.
Also any party who has been in power for a while is unpopular as people usually just fancy a change.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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I never say same about you Jan
Happy to hear anything you have to say.
Neil
I'm thinking about how some of these smaller parties may break through this time (reform)
Which may alter the overall majority?
I think if reform don't do well this time and at least win a number of MPs it a It will be there last chance .
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victor matcham- Registered: 5 Oct 2021
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Must say it looks like the red will walk it this time round,but the blues only have them selfs to blame..
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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Keith Sansum1 wrote:I never say same about you Jan
Happy to hear anything you have to say.
Neil
I'm thinking about how some of these smaller parties may break through this time (reform)
Which may alter the overall majority?
I think if reform don't do well this time and at least win a number of MPs it a It will be there last chance .
I think it's completely different this time around. Despite the Tory party panic over UKIP, it was ultimately Labour that suffered. However, it will be the Tory party that suffers this time around with Reform. I agree with Jan, there is nothing they can actively do at this point other than wait for an enormous unforced error from Starmer.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Neil
Your blind faith that your leader is all going to come good for the likes of posters on here is to say the least very good
I hope your not disappointed !!!!!!
Quite a number of ex Labour supporters of people who used to vote Labour are voting reform thinking to some reason they will stop the boats overnight!!
It's sounding like false promises all over again , and people belief it's going to happen!!!!!
Good luck Neil think your going to need it
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Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,053
Keith Sansum1 wrote:Good luck Neil think your going to need it
Labour majority: 1/6
Lib Dems over 40 seats: 8/11
Tories under 100 seats: 5/2
Labour over 500 seats: 14/1
Labour to get fewer votes than at 2019 GE: 50/1.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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What I seriously don't understand is why people are evem considering voting for Reform, whose policies on such as 'Zero Waiting Lists' and 'Cheaper Energy' seem to be based on magical thinking more than anything else.
https://www.reformparty.uk/policies
Surely a vote for the SDP (which is still around and has the blessed Rod Liddle as a member), a self proclaimed 'economically left-leaning and culturally traditional party', would make more sence?
https://sdp.org.uk/"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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Interesting Bob.
But like with Brexit
People are believing they have the magic wand to stop the boats !!!!
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Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 3,063
Captain Haddock wrote:What I seriously don't understand is why people are evem considering voting for Reform...
Tice putting out Reform's candidate list early, so it could get vetted by progressive media, is an astonishing up-front declaration of British 'conservative' clownery.
At least the Conservatives try to disguise the fact they aren't conservative, and manage to PR enough foolish people into a vote for them.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
victor matcham- Registered: 5 Oct 2021
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I will not be one of them sir.
