Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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the rich need UKIP to soak up the labour disenfranchised? don't see them running out of cash
Brian Dixon
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until the tax man sends them a very large tax bill.
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Keith Sansum1
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when will they realise they are a forgotten party
Ask Cllr Glazier in t hamlets
people in a by election deserted him
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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the problems that sparked UKIP haven't gone away? looks like EU withdrawal will be a stitch up, and immigration and political correctness still very much grinding on voters.
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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EU withdrawal has been a stitch up from the outset.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Nowadays this applies more to For Britain supporters who think they would win the next General supporters but for people altering their ballot papers after voting.
http://www.southendnewsnetwork.net/news/thousands-of-ukip-voters-take-own-crayons-to-polling-stations-over-vote-tampering-fears/Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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I would be inclined to take a permanant marker pen.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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THEIR TIME IS UP.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Not quite gone yet and trying to resurrect itself by attracting the type of individual that Farage purged.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/28/ukip-far-right-brexit-vote-migranthoward mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Weird Granny Slater
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Perhaps he could make up for this idiocy by swimming with some great whites (sharks, that is) on his forthcoming Australian tour:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-44767140'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
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I am thinking her days as PM are coming to a end. I do not know if she is doing a good or bad job,but she is running out of MP,S that she can trust.
John Buckley
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“38% of people would vote for a new party on the right that was committed to Brexit, while 24% said they were ready to support an explicitly far right anti-immigrant, anti-Islam party, according to the YouGov survey for the Sunday Times.“
Interesting if true. But as I’ve suggested in earlier posts, and like it or not, it only needs a certain political situation to arise ( ie., the Brexit fiasco ) to see the reemergence of UKIP.
Whilst for some on here that may seem to be an unpalatable scenario, it’s not a situation that is completely beyond the realms of possibility. We will no doubt soon see!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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More from that Sunday Times article which indicates that we have a very confused political situation.
One in three voters are prepared to back a new anti-Brexit centrist party.
Tory donors and allies of Nigel Farage, the former Ukip leader, are now plotting to raise £10m to set up a new hard-Brexit party — a move that could make it impossible for the Tories to win the next election. A close ally of Steve Bannon, Donald Trump’s former chief strategist, told The Sunday Times he aimed to raise £1m from British and US sources to create a right-wing “mass movement” to rival Momentum on the left.
It can also be revealed that Sir Vince Cable, the Liberal Democrat leader, was holding talks on the creation of a new centrist party when he failed to turn up for a crunch vote last week. The poll will prompt Tory MPs to demand changes to May’s Brexit proposal thrashed out at Chequers earlier this month. Just one in nine voters (11%) would support her plan in a new referendum and only 12% think it would be good for Britain, while 43% disagree.
By more than two to one, voters do not believe her plan keeps faith with the referendum result.
May’s position will be further eroded by public support for Johnson, who resigned to oppose the Chequers deal, which would lead to the UK permanently accepting EU rules on the sale of goods. Just 16% of voters think the prime minister is handling Brexit well; more than twice as many (34%) think Johnson would do a better job. With the Tories on 38%, a point behind Labour, a Conservative party led by Johnson would be neck and neck with Labour, while his main leadership rivals — Sajid Javid, Michael Gove and Jeremy Hunt — would all be trailing Jeremy Corbyn’s party by between 10 and 12 percentage points.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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What surprised me most in that poll is that the Tories would do better under Johnson than any other potential leader, surely people can see through him by now? I understand the unpopularity of Gove and Hunt but Javid comes across well with the public and he hasn't around long enough to make big mistakes.
Then we have talk of a new far right party with Farage and Bannon involved but UKIP and For Britain will fragment the vote and although 24% would support an anti immigration, anti Islam party our first past the post system would leave them virtually toothless unlike in most other European countries.
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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It's a major failure of the left that it hasn't made a case for a UK post-EU scenario. Self-determination and nationalism are by no means the same thing. Corbyn's history of euroscepticism and his popular election to the Labour leadership should have put him in a prime position to state the obvious, but divisions and calculations mean the gate to the field has been left wide open for the right to munch on the lush green grass that grows there.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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no no no its the whole government that's to blame, the left right and center.along with in fighting between the factions.to be short the whole house is like st.trinians.
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