howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I don't see the current UKIP leader falling for this one as he knows that Bannon would replace him with Farage.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/steve-bannon-movement-ukip-brexit-a8464846.htmlhoward mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Could be that John was correct in predicting a comeback from the political grave for UKIP if our betters did not get a clean break from the EU.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/02/ukip-membership-surges-15-per-cent-in-a-monthhoward mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Courtesy of the Sunday Times.
Nigel Farage is plotting a return to frontline politics and is preparing to launch a fresh campaign to become an MP, according to allies. The former Ukip leader is looking for a new platform to relaunch his political career and is said to be eyeing a number of potential by-election opportunities, including Peterborough, which overwhelmingly voted to back Brexit.
Last month Farage revealed he was ready to seek another stint as Ukip leader if the Brexit process was not “back on track” by March when the party’s current leader, Gerard Batten, reaches the end of his term. The incumbent Labour MP, Fiona Onasanya, is to stand trial with her brother, Festus, accused of lying about speeding points in a case that bears a remarkable similarity to the case that ended the career of the former Liberal Democrat cabinet minister Chris Huhne. Onasanya was charged with perverting the course of justice at Westminster magistrates’ court on July 12 and is due to appear in court again on August 13.
The case opens the door to the prospect of a by-election in one the most devoutly pro-Brexit parts of the country. In the referendum in 2016, Peterborough voted by 60.9% to 39.1% to leave the European Union. The seat was previously held by Stewart Jackson, who until last month served as chief of staff to the former Brexit secretary David Davis.
Brian Dixon
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oh no not gobalot making a come back, he can talk the hind legs of a donkey.
John Buckley
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Brian Dixon wrote:oh no not gobalot making a come back, he can talk the hind legs of a donkey.
Probably the front legs as well Brian!
But that’s an interesting article above posted by Howard. It would only need the “perfect storm” to be in place for Farage to be elected and the situation in Peterborough would be just that. A very strong desire for Brexit in the first place, people annoyed with May’s fudge and betrayal etc., a good chance to give the tories a bloody nose and a rejection of Labour’s mainly pro EU stance.
If this scenario actually takes place, just watch all the big guns come out to desperately support their candidates in order to avoid their worst nightmare.........Farage in Westminster!
It’s not totally impossible or improbable, but plenty of time yet for some dirty tricks to be conjured up.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Could go any way with it being both Labour and Tory in recent times and the clear shout given in the Referendum vote. The Labour candidate will have a big problem due to criminal charges the incumbent faces. I can't see the Tories winning it back this time so it is down to Gerard Batten whether Farage gets the nod to fight the seat and maybe even win it.
Weird Granny Slater
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Desperately seeking suzerainty. Again.
But as a general point, surely there should be a residence qualification for anyone seeking elected office so as to prevent parties parachuting in 'personalities' and various Farage-like fly-by-nights more self-importantly interested in their own careers than in those people they purport to represent.
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Weird Granny Slater wrote:Desperately seeking suzerainty. Again.
But as a general point, surely there should be a residence qualification for anyone seeking elected office so as to prevent parties parachuting in 'personalities' and various Farage-like fly-by-nights more self-importantly interested in their own careers than in those people they purport to represent.
Didn't Paul Nuttall claim Stoke residency in that by-election? There is form I suggest.
Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
John Buckley- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
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Weird Granny Slater wrote:Desperately seeking suzerainty. Again.
But as a general point, surely there should be a residence qualification for anyone seeking elected office so as to prevent parties parachuting in 'personalities' and various Farage-like fly-by-nights more self-importantly interested in their own careers than in those people they purport to represent.
Yes, that would be one way to stop him, WGS. But if that “residence qualification” is not already legally in place then I’m sure that there might be such an attempt to rush it through in order, as you say, to stop those more interested in their own careers etc. It would be the right thing to do eh?
Having said that, I would suggest that generally 95% of politicos of all parties would fit that bill, not just those involved with the nasty UKIP.
( But nice to see people getting worried, always a good sign!
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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I'd be quite happy to stand corrected but I believe that you have to reside in a constituency in order to serve as its MP. That's where the mendacious Mr. Nuttall went wrong in Stoke. He only grasped the fact too late and got embroiled in a frantic last minute search for suitable accommodation. That and his lies about being at Hillsborough rather reduced his chances of election somewhat.
As far as Farage is concerned, why on earth would anyone be worried? He only has credibility amongst the extremely gullible.
John Buckley- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
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Thanks for yet another positive endorsement Ray!
Be interesting to see though just how many “extremely gullible” voters there are in Peterborough should an election actually take place. Probably the same number that mistakenly voted for Brexit I would guess?
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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You know me, John! That said, IF Farage gets the nod to stand in Peterborough AND bearing in mind that the Tories have made the most royal cock-up of everything they've touched in the last 2 years AND the Labour candidate appears to be manifestly dishonest, then Farage might well get the nod.
Excuse the caps. I live in a world of Boolean logic. Can't be arsed with an emoji. I still think they are for simpletons.
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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John Buckley wrote:Yes, that would be one way to stop him, WGS. But if that “residence qualification” is not already legally in place then I’m sure that there might be such an attempt to rush it through in order, as you say, to stop those more interested in their own careers etc. It would be the right thing to do eh?
Having said that, I would suggest that generally 95% of politicos of all parties would fit that bill, not just those involved with the nasty UKIP.
( But nice to see people getting worried, always a good sign!
)
Well JB, that's why I began my post with the words 'as a general point'. I'd say a minimum 5-year residency qualification should knock on the head such disrespectful constituency-hopping and check the sense of entitlement that resides in the psychologies of such roving ne'er-do-wells.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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When Charlie stood here the first time he owned a house in Deal and was never seen going in or out and no rubbish or recycling was ever put out and he owned a flat in Knightsbridge.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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more like walmer howard, me and alan droped him of there once.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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His constituency office is in Walmer Brian.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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yes howard, but he bypassed that and disapeard down a side road,
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:When Charlie stood here the first time he owned a house in Deal and was never seen going in or out and no rubbish or recycling was ever put out and he owned a flat in Knightsbridge.
Well, presumably any individual entitled to vote is only on the electoral roll once at any one time, no matter how many properties he or she owns. This, then, would be the place of residence.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Keith Sansum1
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I think people have seen through farrage/ukip now
just a protest party now
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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You need to get up to speed on this one Keith, since the Chequers fiasco people are joining or re-joining UKIP in their hundreds. Farage is a very shrewd political operator and would distance himself from a dead duck if he needed to.
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