Guest 682- Registered: 19 Jan 2009
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Sorry Merek - I only post now and again as you have no doubt noticed and then only if the topic looks attractive.
Come on then John tell us the amount and get things in perspective by how many authorities would be sharing the money.
How much could we have received still bearing in mind the funding would stop after two years.
We need to beware of adopting uncosted programmes.
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
- Posts: 3,205
over 500 posts Marek,I am always here.Nigel I don't have the figs to hand but I am sure you know,and I know the reason it was turned down,and it was Tides as it only deals with children.I also know why lots of Councils in one area turned it down,because if one Council passed it say Canterbury all the kids would have gone there.
If you can't find those numbers I can call DDC and find out,so we have Free Bus Passes for over 60's and we will have free swimming as well.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,696
I see from the latest Dover District Council @ your service magazine (p5) that Dover Pride have "put out a call to the UK's artistic community askiing for submissions to produce a selection of creative images or text based works which can be reproduced for use on hoardings and shop windows over the next few years throughout Dover Town. Under the banner of "Dover Visuals" the successful artist will adopt a creative approach to interacting with the local community and liaise closely with the Dover Pride Team who will be responsible for the production and installation of the finished pieces in May."
Now much as I applaud this I have a number of questions that are not answered in the above quote:
1. Why are we not looking to local schools to contribute art pieces? Perhaps giving each school in the town its own set of windows or hoardings to design pieces for and getting the public to vote on their favourite piece.
2. If not schools then why not run a competition for local artists and photographers to provide positive/imaginative or interesting images of the town and selecting the top 50 to use around the town?
3. If this is a commission for a single artist as the piece suggests who chooses the successful artist?
4. How much will they be paid?
5. What is meant by adopting a creative approach to interacting with the local community?
Perhaps a councillor or member of the Dover Pride Team can answer?
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Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
- Posts: 1,610
Does it mean a gobstopper on every empty shop?
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I understand that Dover Pride have been inviting artists to contact them for input for the hoardings that will go up when the DTIZ starts, so it gives them a modicum of attractiveness.
It would be good if the artwork could be funded via Dover-Pride for the closed shops, at least they would look more attractive than they do now.
Roger
Guest 652- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Dover Arts centre originally brought this idea to the fore, but was beaten down by Dover Pride team who could do it for half the price, so lets see if they can, The arts centre had some good ideas
Sheila
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Is that the Arts Centre upstairs at the Charltion Centre Sheila ?
If so, I've already spoken to them and they are very keen to get started.
Roger
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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They are also very keen to use local artists and feature local history, which to me sounds a lot more attractive than employing a shipped in artist to paint out of favour sweets.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
Guest 652- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Too right Chris, they have some brilliant designs in their mind, and would really enhance the area, I think we should promote them
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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My personal opinion on the delays to any sort of progress on this is that one group, in this case the LRCF, began looking into getting it done and did a lot of research and planning. When it went to DDC they said "oh yes a great idea let us go off and spend some money setting up our own team to do it". Then Dover Pride said they could look into it and employ an artist to cenceptualise it.
If, instead, they had all done the obvious and got behind the initial proposal (including using local schools)with their money and resources we would be seeing a lot more progress by now.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
chris
it seems logical that if lrcf had done the research and planning and DDC had agreed with it, then surely there is no need to involve any more groups.
all that will happen is that reports and updates will go back and forth between the people involved and all the money will be spent on that.
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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You would think so.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
big night tomorrow.
6 pm up at whitfield, planning will give the nod to the screen, will be the first new thing here in ages.
i remember when they inroduced big screens to test cricket grounds years ago, i was one of them that was against.
the moment a controversial moment happened, and a replay was due on the screen, i was knocking people out of the way to get to the front.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,018
Well i went to the Planning Meeting last night and spoke for three minutes .In that time you have to stick to planning matters .my bigest issuie was Anti Social Behaviour .I advised the committee some years ago the then owner of the Elle wanted a screen to show an England game .The police apposed this as the cost of policing this event would have been very high .
I think most of the FOR brigade think we will have large sporting events shewn .Well the applicant stated if policing was going to be an issuie in otherwords large crowds in Market Square they would not be shown .Think how much it costs to steward and police a carnival ?
The Committee are going to hold a site meeting to weigh up the issuies .For those objecting and those FOR another chance to go along and have your say .
Were any forumites ther last night ??
We are VERY LUCKY in the Dover district to have the Deal Walmer and Kingsdown regatta association stewards who steward ALL the local district carnivals at NO cost.
I say NO COST unless you count supplying the guys with something to eat. A very small price to pay for the work they do.
The only extra officers we get for carnival day is usually a lead police car, and possibly a couple of special constables.
We are very lucky at DCAL to have such a good working relationship with the police and stewards.
I think that answers the point raised about how much it costs to steward and police a carnival
What strikes me reading back over the postings is that, frankly it doesn't matter whether or not we get the blasted Telly, but what does matter is the attitude it has flushed out of our local reps. I want reps with a Can Do attitude, an acceptance of complexities within a community, and the drive and charisma to get things done. I will leave it there..............................
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,696
Absolutely Bern
For too long Dover appears to have been saddled with councillors who seem incapable of doing more than talk the talk, in fact often they do not even do that leaving their constituents in the dark.
We need councillors who are totally "can do" but also capable of telling us what is going on. Before Paul or Nigel or BarryW point it out, I recognise the need to respect commercial confidentialities that sometimes limits what can be said, however, this is not a reason to tell us nothing. (As a project manager I too have to manage the information flow to my many stakeholders and often due to commercial or regulatory sensitivities cannot tell the whole story, however it does not stop me regularly telling them as much as I can/am able to.) Or is this a case of local politicians recognising that knowledge/information is power and fearing putting power in our hands?
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,018
Ross,Iam Can Do .Have I not kept you all in the picture so to speak .I have told you what happened at meetingss,and it is me today telling you where we are with this TV screen .Now you who want the screen may think Im no cando but all those who have objected four to one against the fors have thanked me for my efforts .Im Cando ,but Houising is low profile .What do you think to the family days and events at the Musuem .Do you like the appearance of the building in Kings Street ,cafe come flats .
just because i dont go on about Hi speed trains doesnt mean Im no can do .Choose words carefully .
I have just returned from Kearsney Abbey now there is a jewel in the crown .Beautiful flowers ,and a pleasant cafe .
Right mandie so o the carnival does not have to pay out for stewards ,does that apply to the Fair??I dont think stewards would police the screen for nothing .
Sue why do you ask me about the fair????? I don't ever remember organising that, as you well know. You made a comment about carnivals. I have answered that, you just move the goal post.
I suggest if you want the answer regarding the fair, you speak to those involved in bringing it to Dover.
I can however tell you that it is not the DWKRA stewards that are used for that.
I deal with carnival only.
I suppose it was just a matter of getting the facts right...thanks for that information Mandie. The Telly?
