22 August 2010
21:3066802Thank you PaulB - we love a debate, but even we have limits - your actions are appreciated.
22 August 2010
21:3266805Hmmm, Bern, smoking is no longer the biggest killer in this country, so what's the issue? If you aim to reduce risk then surely children should only be allowed to go to pedestrians!!! The attitude displayed is again not the intersts of the parentless/homeless child. What in fact is being done is forcing someone else's lifestyle on others. Non-smokers also make lousey parents too you know.
And before you attack me for being a smoker, I don't smoke in the house as I live with non-smokers. Of course, that would still prevent me from adopting. Work that one out.
22 August 2010
21:3766813If it meant that much to adopt, wouldn't you give it up?
Shoot me.....
22 August 2010
21:3866818Bang!!! Why should I? If the agency thinks that is the paramount consideration then my point about their pomposity is proven.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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22 August 2010
22:1066838spot on sid, the important thing is that the children go to a loving home.
the left handers excelled in this, they took everything into consideration, obese people and smokers were never ruled out as prospective parents.
Ross Miller
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22 August 2010
22:1766840Paul B - thank you
Sid - I totally agree
Bern - I think you and Sid are close to violently agreeing - careful now
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
23 August 2010
05:2566851Caution will be applied!!!!!!!!
Guest 656- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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23 August 2010
10:1366886As a Catholic I went to church yesterday, not out of guilt but because I wanted to and I enjoyed it
Live and let live
All loving couples whether gay, fat, outside smokers, religious or not should be allowed to adopt and give a child a chance to be loved, why isn't it as simple as that
Jan Higgins
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23 August 2010
13:1166915Well said Colette, a voice of reason and common sense.
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Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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23 August 2010
18:5066941I agree the only criteria for fostering or adoption should be who is capable of giving the child a safe caring and loving environment to grow up in
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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23 August 2010
19:0066944i think that more and more agencies are recognising that people that do not tick the right boxes are sometimes better prospective parents than the squeaky clean ones.
i was sitting in my local surgery waiting room this afternoon and there was a young mum with 2 boys aged about 2 and 3 that wanted attention.
she seemed to be bored with them and pulled faces to suggest that they go away, she was clearly the natural mother.
i had to spend nearly 15 minutes on my knees playing silly games with them as they realised they could get a response.
she spent that time texting.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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23 August 2010
19:3466947I agree Howard, come into the Age Concern shop on a Saturday or during school holidays to see some of the worst behaved primary schoolchildren in Dover.
The parents seem to let them run wild, I get really fed up telling the little dears to leave things alone, mum ignores them but gives me a filthy look.
Oh dear!!! I have now put you off spending your money with us.
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Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
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23 August 2010
21:0066956What is the world coming to when you have a visitor comes into your house with two young children (of an age to know how to behave), and they systematically open all your cupboards and drawers to see what they can find ?? That happened to me some years ago. I now would have the courage to give them a piece of my mind, didn't have then...
And father always strongly objected to children who made a lot of noise or fidgeted when sat having a meal at a table, or ran around the table !!
Shows how badly disciplined and brought up they are. 'Take your elbows off the table', 'Sit up straight', he used to say, or 'Don't talk at mealtimes' or 'I'm listening to the news' (on TV), we had to be quiet. When HE was young whatever they left on their plates was served up to them at the next meal, no food was ever wasted.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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23 August 2010
21:0666958times change kath, whilst i bemoan rank bad behaviour i love seeing young children expressing themselves and not being scared of rigid rules.
all children fidget.
Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
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23 August 2010
21:1266960Yes, indeed, Howard, certainly children should not have too much discipline and rules, can definitely kill a child's spirit and imaginatiion.
But when some behave so badly at home, what will they do in front of strangers? Good manners don't cost anything.
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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23 August 2010
21:1766961OOOOOOOOOOOOO Howard.
The biggest excuse for bad behaviour is 'they are just expressing themselves'. What the parent means is 'I let little Johnny do just what he likes because I don't know how to control him'. Most rigid rules these days are there for a reason.
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23 August 2010
21:4466962Perhaps we can provide an election slogan for the Super Millionairre Brothers, "Tough on kids and tough on the causes of kids".
Not sure I like the idea of the second part of that unless it applies to 14-18 years olds.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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23 August 2010
22:0266974i was talking along the lines of young children, under 6 rifling through drawers that had held something for them before.
running riot is a different thing altogether.
