Dover Rural...Texas East Kent UK.?
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email received this morning.
Dear All
A planning application has been lodged for temporary use of land (for up to 52 weeks) to allow drilling of an exploratory borehole to test insitu coal measures for methane gas, including provision of drilling rigs and associated site compound
Location: Guston Court Farm, off Pineham Road, Guston, Dover, Kent CT15 5ES
This application is on the KCC website. (Please find attached application and advert)
Although the Guston application is of main concern to us here in Whitfield, there are similar applications for Eythorne and for Shepherdswell Parishes.
According to the application, All traffic movement for the site is to go along Archers Court Road and through Pineham. Guston Parish Council would welcome our support and a public meeting has been arranged for:
19th September at 7.30 at the Burgoyne Heights Community Centre.
This could be another Balcombe situation although the application stresses no Fracking at this stage, I am assuming this is to assess the comercial viability for Fracking to potentially take place at some time in the future.
The main concerns at the moment for the drilling application are access, noise and light pollution and environmental impact, especially bats at the church.
With Kind Regards
Jeff Goodsell
Chairman Whitfield Parish Council - 17 September 2013 08:50244977"(ii)
MINERALS AND WASTE DISPOSAL DEVELOPMENTS
District Dover
KCC/DO/0216/2013
Temporary use of land (for up to 52 weeks) to allow
drilling of an exploratory borehole to test insitu coal
measures for methane gas, including provision of drilling
rigs and associated site compound.
Guston Court Farm, off Pineham Lane, Guston, Dover
Case Officers: Mike Clifton/James Bickle
Dover
KCC/DO/0217/2013
Temporary use of land (for up to 52 weeks) to allow
drilling of an exploratory borehole to test insitu coal
measures for methane gas, including provision of drilling
rigs and associated site compound.
Former Tilmanstone Colliery, off Pike Road, Eythorne
Case Officers: Mike Clifton/James Bickle
Dover
KCC/DO/0218/2013
Temporary use of land (for up to 52 weeks) to allow
drilling of an exploratory borehole to test insitu coal
measures for methane gas, including provision of drilling
rigs and associated site compound.
Land off an un-named road, South West of Puckland
Wood, (between the A2 and Westcourt Lane),
Shepherdswell
Case Officers: Mike Clifton/James Bickle
If you require more information regarding planning a
pplications within this list, please contact Richard
Bore on 22(1061)."
From...
KCC Weekly Planning List:
Week ending 16 August - 06 September 2013 (PDF, 30k)
http://www.kent.gov.uk/environment_and_planning/planning_in_kent/planning_applications/view_planning_applications/weekly_planning_list.aspxIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing. - 17 September 2013 09:33244986will watch the nimbyism carefully take over here, bats in the church indeed.
- Keith Sansum1
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17 September 2013 09:58244991Hopefuly the concerns of damaged houses etc will be overcome
would you want it in belgrave road howard?ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 17 September 2013 10:05244999there isn't space in belgrave road keith we haven't even got a play area let alone open space locally.
- Keith Sansum1
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17 September 2013 10:06245000lots open spaceALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 17 September 2013 11:07245010I hope they go ahead and find fuel of any kind we need jobs and we need fuel so it is a win win.
- 17 September 2013 12:43245015no open space for kids to play in keith and fracking would not be allowed there anyway.
- Keith Sansum1
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17 September 2013 17:12245038depends where it was
anyway my question was,,,,
if was able to be done would you want it in belgrave rdALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 17 September 2013 18:38245050How can you go drilling in Belgrave Road. Far too populated, that must be why they've chosen the sites as on the list, hardly any people, so minimum disruption to the general population, and its about time they got some use out of Archers Court Road. It will give the houses a nice 'patina' with all those dusty lorries going past.
- Keith Sansum1
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17 September 2013 18:54245052missing my pointALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 17 September 2013 21:04245076As a new resident of Guston I was very worried to hear that the Guston court farm has allowed a planning application for borehole drilling to be made to the council.
This application raises a number of issues for me, from job creation fallacies to potential poisons injected into our local community.
As for new job creation, it is almost highly certain that these drilling companies will bring their own work force with them, this isn't a good employer like john lewis coming to the area, it's an oil & gas company, for those old enough to remember the JR Ewings of the world aren't people I'd like as neighbours.
In the US fracking seems to be working, but you have to remember that land size of England is a tiny compared to America (40 England's can fit in to America's land mass). So fracking in the US can go ahead without damaging nearby communities, our island is too small for this. Ask yourself why countries like France have banned this exploration?
If you are injecting chemicals into the land to crack rock to release gas, then these chemicals are bound to get into our drinking water eventually. The lorries delivering these chemicals will also risk spillage.
Guston is a tiny village with a nice little pub and an 11th century church, the surrounding countryside brings many tourists to dover and its environs. Sunday mornings you'll see many people walking through the plentiful footpaths that zig zag along the coast & countryside as well as cyclists on the very country lanes that will be clogged up by this development. Do you really want to lose this?
Personally this issue for me isn't about nimbyism, as the vista from where i live won't be effected but this is about big business getting licences to drill and possibly ruin & poison our land and our drinking water and clog up our little country lanes.
If you want to see Dover turned into the new Milford Haven, then I say sit back and watch but if don't then do something. For me this is the first time I've written on a forum (and its taken me 3hrs to be able to post this) and tomorrow I hope I can make the council meeting in Whitfield and the parish meeting in Burgoyne heights the following evening. If anything, I want to stay informed and if I can stop the increasing need and greed of these energy companies exploiting and damaging our land then I will. I can't sit by and let this pass without comment. I agree Dover needs jobs but lets regenerate the town where there's far too many empty shops & offices!The only person you are destined to become is the person you decide to be - Jan Higgins
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17 September 2013 21:11245077Welcome John it is good to have the view of someone living near the proposed sight.
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I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
------------------------------------------------------------------- - 17 September 2013 21:43245078indeed it is good to hear from someone at the coal face, so to speak.
we need to remember that they are only exploratery drillings at this stage, the real battles will be fought if the company decides the sites are cost effective. - 17 September 2013 21:44245079First of all John, welcome to the forum, and secondly, you have hit the nail right on the head. I can't see much, if any local employment coming out of this investigation, just a complete and utter mess. In the short term, there are the obvious dangers of a massive increase in traffic around the farm, and those lanes are not at all suitable for heavy plant. Its alright saying that access will be through whitfield, but you can be sure that there will be plenty of rogue vehicles using the shorter, faster or more convenient routes, and I feel confident they will show very little respect for the local people or environment.
...and Keith, I didn't miss your point at all. - Keith Sansum1
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17 September 2013 21:56245081welcome john
and well saidALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - Bob Whysman
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17 September 2013 22:02245083Hi John,
Welcome to the forum, you'll find them a friendly and entertaining bunch!
As regards drilling planning applications the initial objective is to drill to seek easily extracted oil or the potential for large amounts of gas to be available for extraction.
At the risk of being blackballed, or worse, I would suggest that you read up the information available on the Dover Locals forum or follow the news items ref Balcombe to gain as much insight into the operation before being overly concerned about the issue.
The scenario of black oil seeping through the off White Cliffs of Dover would not be a pretty sight, but the benefits long term should workable deposits be found, leaves the door open to more speculation.
Not a lot of help I know, but I do my best!
Do nothing and nothing happens. - 17 September 2013 23:08245088Thanks for the welcome everyone but I'm not a believer of this sort of gas exploration for our tiny island, too many people living close by, coupled with so many European countries banning it!The only person you are destined to become is the person you decide to be
- 17 September 2013 23:22245092...but given the national coverage that Balcombe had (remember they let the planning for exploration go through approved and started protesting too late) I'm surprised its not on the news forums or national news but then again who is deciding what's on the news (government or business ...or both).The only person you are destined to become is the person you decide to be
- 18 September 2013 07:37245097I have not made up my mind on this issue. Does anyone know of a website which considers the facts in an impartial way? All the articles I can find are either written by emotional 'antis' or commercially involved 'pros'. On the whole the antis destroy their own case by hysterical misrepresentation of the scientific evidence while the pros seem quite 'economical' with the truth.I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson