Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
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Yes, unless they apply to remove them & meet the horrendous costs.
PatrickS
- Location: Marine Parade, Dover
- Registered: 19 Sep 2015
- Posts: 448
St James site 25 March 2017 viewed from Western Heights
Steelwork rises in Block A of the St James site as construction work progresses towards the M&S section (yet to be erected) along Townwall Street.
'Another Wall In The Block' (with apologies to Pink Floyd) - a further 9 sections of a somewhat tall Town Wall are put in place at the M&S end (bottom right)
a closer view
the long view
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Taken from Dolphin Passage earlier.
Guest 1266- Registered: 8 May 2014
- Posts: 381
Almost there.
Jack of Hearts
Paul M- Registered: 1 Feb 2016
- Posts: 393
Yep. I would say about a year away. After years of wrangling and delays that's something positive.
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Guest 1266- Registered: 8 May 2014
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Paul M wrote:Yep. I would say about a year away. After years of wrangling and delays that's something positive.
A year away? That can't be right, the leader of DDC has stated it will definitely open this year
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Jack of Hearts
PatrickS- Location: Marine Parade, Dover
- Registered: 19 Sep 2015
- Posts: 448
I seem to recall that it was said that the cinema was to open Autumn 2016. I wonder who said that?
Jack Heart wrote:You assured the scrutiny committee that construction would be complete by Autumn 2016. Take responsibility and resign from DDC
It was at #448
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Guest 1266- Registered: 8 May 2014
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The real concern is the protracted impact the delays are having on the existing high street and the 40% of units at DTIZ which still don't have a suitor.
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Jack of Hearts
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I have never known projects like this stick to their timetable what with developers, District Council, contractors and financiers involved. I go along with Paul that next Spring will see the opening, hopefully with Brantano and Next involved.
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PatrickS- Location: Marine Parade, Dover
- Registered: 19 Sep 2015
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Howard, you are quite right about contract overruns in projects such as these. That is accepted by most informed sources in the industry.
However that is not, IMHO, the issue here.
It is the total lack of transparency about this whole project that causes questions to be asked with answers not forthcoming as to why there are delays in this project and the lack of information coming out of DDC or Bond City.
No accountability, no transparency, no information. Work is progressing on site as can be seen, but no-one is saying anything of substance.
BTW if you meant Brabanto it has just this month gone into administration - for the second time.
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,832
Unfortunately DDC and DTC are reticent about giving information on virtually any subject you can think of.........Unless it shows them in a good light then it is shouted to the media, they allow us just enough to keep us quiet.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Definitely Brantano Patrick according to the link in 799.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Has anyone else noticed that the man at the top i.e the Chief Executive with the largest wage -packet and doubtless an excellent pension package has uttered not a word i many years about anything let alone the DTIZ? Instead the underlings are in the firing line, no buck stopping with him.
Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
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PatrickS- Location: Marine Parade, Dover
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Howard said "Definitely Brantano Patrick according to the link in 799"
Quite right Howard. Got the name wrong. Must go to Spk Svrs. I see the unit has now been renamed "Shoe Zone" on the latest post from Karlos. Thanks.
Guest 1831- Registered: 1 Sep 2016
- Posts: 395
The majority of the takers are from the High Street.
Biggin and Cannon Street.
Hope someone, somewhere, has got some good ideas regarding all the empty shops.
It will be a mass exodus.
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Guest 1849- Registered: 12 Sep 2016
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christine.a wrote:The majority of the takers are from the High Street.
Biggin and Cannon Street.
Hope someone, somewhere, has got some good ideas regarding all the empty shops.
It will be a mass exodus.
I'm afraid that's hardly earth shattering news. There are no good ideas, quality shops do their research and they understand the demographics of towns like Dover. Due to decades of incompetence by DDC and a succession of MPs the enormous revenue created at the port has been squandered and the road layout has fragmented the town.
Plenty of us have spent plenty of time doing our best, but spend some time at DDC and you'll soon see why the town is finished. Self promotion and preservation has taken precedence over what's best for Dover.
PatrickS- Location: Marine Parade, Dover
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Friday 31st March - site progress - parnorama
At the western end of Block A further town wall sections have been put in place. M&S Unit 1A is now outlined in steel and one of the 4 'turrets' has been afixed (just above the yellow crane jib).
The dual level light steel framework in the foreground would appear to be the scissor lift for Unit 1A if I've read the plan correctly.
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Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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christine.a wrote:
Hope someone, somewhere, has got some good ideas regarding all the empty shops.
Doctors? Dentists? Business start up spaces? Perhaps we could all take a leaf out of Folkestone's book
http://folkestone.works/ and start planning for the future rather than whining 'why oh why oh why can't we all have a nice doss job down the harbour like we used to or carry on digging coal which no-one wants at a price no-one can afford anyway'.
The High Street as you and I knew it is gone. Get over it.
In the words of the great Ken Kesey 'You're either on the bus, or you're off the bus'.
Some of us never actually got off the bus! The destination is still 'Further' as we try to 'curve out the straights and straighten out the curves'.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Here's some more ideas of what the High Street of the future might look like:-
http://www.futurespacesfoundation.org/our-work/future-of-the-high-street-report/ (and it doesn't involve a sodding fountain with laser display!)
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
