howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Yet another deleted post from Mr Phantom. Never mind good to see you back Peter, in answer to your question would Pinnochio be appropriate?
Guest 943- Registered: 15 May 2013
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Wicker Man now Pinnochio and Mr Phantom?I cannot keep up with these riddles.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,018
I do wish people would stop deleting posts. As the numbering is out of sequence and posts then donot make sense .I think Mr Phantom is over sensitive.If your number is in the telephone directory people know where you live .
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,231
While its a shame to see more countryside built over, this looks like a well thought out developement with schools, medical facilities and shops included rather than burdening our already struggling services, and the addition of a bio-diversity park is the right thing for all developments like this, I don't see anything of the like in farthingloe, Whitfield or connaught development. Perhaps we have the wrong people making the decisions?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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They make it sound good with parklands and wetlands being mentioned but Ashford is almost a city now with endless soulless housing developments and the roads will have to be improved substantially to cope with the extra traffic. 15 fields to be lost forever.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Guest 1997- Registered: 3 Mar 2017
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Yes. This is now with the Supreme Court. I'll break from my single issue status just to express my fervent hope that they uphold the previous judgment. despite Charlie's assertions that his desk draw is full of lists of young Dovorians with the wherewithal to jump on this particular property ladder.
One of the most beautiful areas of Dover lost forever to satiate the developer's greed for profit is nothing to be proud of in my book.
Going back to my pet cause celebre, a characteristically bland press release has appeared on the news page. No change. No real news. No concrete plans just statements of good will. Motherhood and apple pie and a prime town centre location bought at the taxpayers' expense.
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,936
With the 'Supreme Court' for God's sake! Whatever the outcome there will be only one winner from this.
Anybody like to hazard a guess on how much this has cost DDC Council Tax payers so far? And up against a 'charity' who I believe have limited liability for court costs!
Doubles and trebles all round for m'learned friends methinks.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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For Information
FWIW Here's a link to the DDC planning application. (240 documents!) :- https://planning.dover.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=DCAPR_219616
Whilst I haven't been following this saga so wouldn't wish to comment on the minutiae of the application IF we are going to have build near Dover at least it has excellent links to M20, close proximity to Railway and being 'high spec' housing should encourage a different demographic to the town i.e. high income, expenditure, expectations etc which can only be good for local retail/school results etc by improving the population profile :-
http://moderngov.dover.gov.uk/documents/s9149/D%20-%20Population%20Profile%20v3.pdf "Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,802
I fail to see how an area that housed loads of fancy sheds not all that long ago can be an "Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty."
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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exactly jan, you can still the concrete bases there.
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Guest 1997- Registered: 3 Mar 2017
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The irony is that, had the Planning Committee accepted their officers initial constraints, then the development would be underway by now. Their concerns for the protection of an AONB led them to originally recommend permission on the basis of a substantially reduced build.
That the area's natural beauty and charm can be dismissed on the basis that it was once a temporary home for TML workers' portacabins is, dare I say it, an ignorant and ill-considered argument. AONB status is there for a reason which is why the law demands particular care and concern when permanent developments are being considered.
One of the main reasons for the Court of Appeal decision was that the Planning Committee failed to pay sufficient atention to their own officers's concerns regarding the environmental aspects.
Re #389 - of course the lawyers will gain. But that is really an issue for DDC who are appealing the decision. The CPRE are a charity and I'm strugging to understand how the use of inverted commas strengthens your case. Perhaps you should describe LoveDover more deservedly as a "charity".
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I don't know how true this is but I was told that the agreement was that after the TML coves had finished their work and vacated the site it would revert to green belt land.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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Yes that's how I recall it .
Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
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On twitter:
@bbcsoutheast
The Supreme Court has upheld a decision quashing a planning application for 500 homes at Farthingloe Valley - an area of Outstanding Natural Beauty near Dover.
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Guest 1997- Registered: 3 Mar 2017
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I do so hope your information is right, Karlos, my old mucker. I need something to restore my confidence in the world.
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,231
Arte et Marte
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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The web page showing the announcement
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The summing up points out that there is no precedent of a development that size being given permission to build in an AONB. I wonder how much the QC cost DDC.