Matey
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Jan Higgins wrote:Pretty pie charts mean nothing if they are blurred even when enlarged.
Blurry but still legible Jan and we can’t argue the stats.
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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Matey wrote:Blurry but still legible Jan and we can’t argue the stats.
Your eyes or computer colour resolution must be better than mine, the words detailing the pie chart colours were not clear, BTW I was not arguing the facts as you put it.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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This country has been built upon immigration since time immemorial.
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Bob Whysman
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ray hutstone wrote:This country has been built upon immigration since time immemorial.
Time for a new National Anthem maybe? I remember it being a very popular anthem in the 50’s, in a mixed camp, when I was in Cyprus
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Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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#643 What. Absolute. Rubbish.
A few tens of thousands of Norman's.
A few tens of thousands of Huguenots.
Apart from that a handful of foreigners until the fifties.
Just look at the census returns.
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"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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That article rather proves my point. And if you weren't so blatantly bigoted on the subject, you might understand it more fully.
Oh. And. By. The. Way. Fooling around with punctuation really doesn't add weight to your argument.
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Captain Haddock wrote:#643 What. Absolute. Rubbish.
A few tens of thousands of Norman's.
A few tens of thousands of Huguenots.
Apart from that a handful of foreigners until the fifties.
Just look at the census returns.
Sorry not bored enough to read Wiki a t the moment.
The Celts also had a few immigrants and I think you forgot a few on your list Vikings and Romans and if I remember correctly also the Vandals (school history lessons) also children and older escaping from Hitler, plus all those kicked out by Idi Amin.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, and if you think about it really we're all Africans 'cos originally we all came out of Africa and Wakanda Forever and other counter factual rubbish and Dr Heinz Kiosk was right when he said 'We are all guilty'.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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#648 For info:-
The British government ultimately permitted 27,000 to move to the UK through the Uganda Resettlement Board (another few tens of thousands)
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Captain Haddock wrote:Yeah, yeah, yeah, and if you think about it really we're all Africans 'cos originally we all came out of Africa and Wakanda Forever and other counter factual rubbish and Dr Heinz Kiosk was right when he said 'We are all guilty'.
Utterly and moronically pathetic.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Calm. Down. Dear. Calm down!
You know it's not good for your blood pressure.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Weird Granny Slater
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This appeal to historical 'immigration' to support ongoing immigration is both poor history and typical self-justificatory reading-backwards liberal politics.
It couldn't care less 'what happened?' Its question is 'how can we tell a tale that has what's happening now as a happy ending?'.
So it stirs the various ways in which populations got from one place to another (invasion, invitation, slavery) into a liberal gruel called 'immigration'. Celts 'immigrated'. Some more Celts 'immigrated'. Romans 'immigrated'. Angles 'immigrated'. Saxons 'immigrated'. Jutes 'immigrated'. Frisians 'immigrated'. Vikings 'immigrated'. Normans 'immigrated'.
Then this castrated history props up some vague claim that 'immigration put the "great" into our great castle.'
Hey presto, 'immigration' having been established as a historical 'good', it follows that 'immigration' must be a contemporary 'good'.
Only a bigot would disagree that history is gloriously progressive.
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Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
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Migration is inevitable and has been going on for all of human history & will go on as long as humans are on this planet. If you thing things are bad now wait till the water wars start all across Northern Africa...
Migration of itself is neither "good" nor "bad"; it is also very hard to "control".
It is worth pointing out that "good" or "bad" are invariably a matter of perspective, what might be good for settled residents may well prove bad for migrants & visa-versa.
The capacity for inward migration is driven by a large number of variables including but not limited to housing availability, labour shortages, spare capacity within public services (which might well be positively flexed by some of those migrants), skills shortages etc. as well as the capacity of local culture to accommodate incomers.
As a wise man said "no-one likes change, but most grow to live with it".
The UK lacks any clear coherent strategy on migration, no idea of capacity, little in the way of process for integrating migrants into the prevailing workforce & culture, lack of adequate processing capacity for claims for asylum &/or residency (unless they are rich then of course their golden visa gets couriered to them), significant gaps in schemes to prove equivalence of foreign qualifications & experience etc etc ad nauseum.
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Keith Sansum1
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I'm getting concerned
I agree with Ross lol
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Ross Miller wrote:Migration is inevitable and has been going on for all of human history...
At least the Bolsheviks had historical materialism and a hairy German to help propagandize the 'inevitability' of the victory of the proletariat.
Liberals and 'migration': 'then the Picts came, understandable really, Scotland's a bit chilly in winter'.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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A total of 1711 illegal migrants have entered the UK in the last 5 days.
7th July 686 in 13 boats
8th July 384 in 7 boats
9th July 269 in 5 boats 10th July
338 in 6 boats
11th July 34 in 1 boat
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Captain Haddock wrote:A total of 1711 illegal migrants have entered the UK in the last 5 days.
7th July 686 in 13 boats
8th July 384 in 7 boats
9th July 269 in 5 boats 10th July
338 in 6 boats
11th July 34 in 1 boat
Good to see government policy working so well, isn't it? And one of his 5 pledges too. Anyone know how the other 4 are doing?