22 October 2009
22:4631243Watching it now. Based on the first 10 minutes, the BNP are being shown for the idiots and racists they are.
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22 October 2009
23:3531245Im pleased having watched question time the BNP was shown up for the racists they and there party are.
Have to say from the panel's point of view the
Conservative and Lib Dem and the author came across well and j straw did fairly well and like the tory shadow spokesperson one question faltered.
All in all though Griffin didnt do himself any justice, and I dont believe he did much to further the cause of the BNP.
I'm also pleased that the panel did in fact put Griffin on the spot with many of his and his parties views, so from the political point of view this is a chance now for the major political parties now to engage with the electorate, because over years they havn't at times done so we have seen the rise of parties such as the BNP and hopefully now we can see the major parties re engaging and the BNP shown for what they are
23 October 2009
00:0031250I'm not sure about the Conservative who was on.
She seemed incredibly reluctant to support Civil Partnerships when Dimbleby asked her a simple yes/no question.
Gay-bashing has been an ugly part of the Tory party's past.
Brian Dixon
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23 October 2009
07:0931253the audience and panel seem to be loaded against the bnp leader,with african/carribian,asian muslims and 1 jewish youngster in the audiance.with the american lady and the muslim tory on the panel knocking him as well.imnot supporting him here but it did seem that he walked into the lions den here.about the only senceable person there was the lib/dem chap.talk about baying for blood they the bbc got there moneys worth.
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23 October 2009
07:4031257I think the this week programme thsat followed gave the sanswer to that
The BNP was well advertised as attending, but do have a very small part of any vote compared to others so yes he would be feeling isolated, but GRIFFIN also avoided answering many of the questions asked of him, which clearly showed he still supported those outdated and racist views.
As much as GRIFFIN has tried to pretend the BNP is not like the National front and is a modern non racist party he got shown last night for the person he realy is.
JAMES
yes I do agree with your comments ref the tory shadow minister, as i said they all had blips in parts, but GRIFFIN im pleased to say didn't do himself any justice what so ever
23 October 2009
08:0431264Brian - if by "loaded" you mean broadly representative of our population, then you are right. Griffin was exposed to a normal audeince rather than the adulation of fasicsts which he usually receives, and it showed. Result.
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23 October 2009
08:1431269agree with your comments BERN
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23 October 2009
11:3231283I look forward to watching it tonight.
from what I hear Griffin made a right fool of himself. I suspect that if the BNP do get a boost in the polls it will be entirely because of the protesters. The BNP must love them.
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23 October 2009
11:4931285I've put a comment on the front page, certainly not defending him, or the BNP, but the Nationals have over exaggerated/demonised him.
Roger
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23 October 2009
12:0331286i get the impression that media are using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut.
nationalist parties have never got past a certain stage in our elections, they get a few councillors here and there, and with pr they get a euro mp.
no one is interested in who their euro mp is.
23 October 2009
12:4031292I agree, although I do think we have to be alert and vigilant about the creep of abusiive or racist groups, and can never be complacent. Take our eye off the ball and we could get a nasty surprise.
23 October 2009
13:1131294And now, in order to keep his profile high, the wuss is "complaining" because it was "unfair". is it, Mr Griffin, as unfair as forced repatriation? As unfair as being judged on the colour of your skin or what you do in the bedroom?
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23 October 2009
14:0831303Like roger i have commented on the other page but we should heed BERN's warning
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23 October 2009
16:1031310The media are going over the top. He is a second rate extremist nutter and simply does not deserve all the publicity he is getting.
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23 October 2009
18:1231316They say about the oxygen of publicity, maybe now it's time to turn off the oxygen ?
Roger
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23 October 2009
22:0031334ROGER
I don't think griffin will allow that now.
To keep publicity going hes going to raise a complaint with the BBC about his treatment!!
Whether he wins or not, he will continue to get the publicity
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23 October 2009
22:0631336of course he will, the sanctimonious have provided him with the ammunition he was looking for.
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23 October 2009
22:1831340thats was always the way this was going to go
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24 October 2009
03:1731346I think the BBC were quite right to give Griffin the same opportunity to spout his views as they are obliged to give to representatives of other parties. It is not their business to decide which political party should be allowed to speak and which should be banned.
In the event, he was less than impressive and sounded surprisingly gormless and uninformed for somebody with a Cambridge education. I have some sympathy with his view that he was the victim of a lynch mob as the panel and audience were unanimous in their scathing contempt and there seemed to be no attempt at any balance. Apparently there were eight BNP members in the audience but their contribution, if any, passed without notice.
The view has been expressed that any airtime given to the BNP, however counterproductive a show trial such as this might appear to be, gives them the oxygen of publicity. Hopefully the reverse might be the case. The warped ideas espoused by Griffin and his adherents might sound eminently reasonable to them when they are shut up together in a closed room and all bouncing the same extremist guff back and forth. They are exposed as trite shallow and insular when the door is opened and the oxygen of free thought flows in from the real world outside.
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24 October 2009
08:1431353Sad that the BBC had to change their normal format because that, along with those idiotic protestors, enable him to string out the publicity and act the downtrodden martyr. Any poll boost he gets will be a bit of short lived sympathy for that.