Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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Bob Whysman wrote:A Dover forum thread laden with humour?
The Bishop is pukka? That's just a rumour,
Inebriated he may be, on communion wine,
But his offerings in verse are still full of rhyme.
Gulp down the left over communion wine if you must,
But whoa, spare the dictionary or our craniums will bust!
We're mostly simple souls with a penchant to tease,
So compete if you must but keep it simple please!
Your views on politicians are some of the best,
And as for the NHS with a future, give it a rest,
Privatisation is the chosen route, it's future is planned,
For the British, not immigrants, free access is banned.
Captains sailing the high seas are known for their pluck,
Old Saltys postings reflect character and sometimes a ruck,
So I conclude, moderated bingeing for simplicity's best,
Preserve the sanity of this peasant, please give humongous a rest!
Dearest, dearest, dearest Bob,
Sorry if I appeared a poetry snob,
I will keep the words really simple,
and save your forehead unnecessary crinkle.
I cannot refrain from the NHS finance
This issue is too big to just take a chance.
Whysman indeed - a most suitable name
I'll take your advice and use prose to proclaim.
Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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There once was a girl called Theresa
Who would do anything to deny you a visa
She voted voted remain
But her excuses were lame
And nobody actually believes her
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Jan Higgins
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I would prefer to call him an old fashioned dinosaur who thinks he is right and the majority of voters should be ignored.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The media are acting as if the vote in the Commons was a surprise when in fact it was always certain that the bill would be passed. The Labour rebels are pretty sure that the next leader would have been pro remain so not much in the way of risk to them. Ms Ab***t was the shrewdest of all and called in sick in time to miss the vote.
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Guest 1849- Registered: 12 Sep 2016
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Complete waste of time and money, parliament voted to give us a referendum and we voted accordingly. There was no point or need in any delay, debate or expenditure - we leave the EU ASAP, its called democracy.
Brian Dixon
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its also a constitunal vote,we still have one you know david,its also called people power.they are government servants in all ways,and should be accountable at all times.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The Referendum was only ever advisory although few people were aware of this so technically it had to be ratified by Parliament which it has in part now.
Guest 1849- Registered: 12 Sep 2016
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:The Referendum was only ever advisory although few people were aware of this so technically it had to be ratified by Parliament which it has in part now.
What do you mean it was advisory - says who?
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/728376/Brexit-MP-High-Court-Parliament-Article-50-triggered-IMMEDIATELY
The polling card never mentioned advisory - would it have been advisory if the vote was to Remain?
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Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
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Having read the act (
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/36/contents/enacted/data.htm again it makes no reference to whether the result is or is not binding on parliament; in such case one must therefore fall back on parliamentary custom and practice, which has always been that referenda are advisory as stated by Ministers in the debate of said act.
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Guest 1849- Registered: 12 Sep 2016
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Just another of your alternative facts McSweeney, the referendum was never advisory, it was whether or not we should leave the EU. Parliament voted to give us a referendum, now they've voted to proceed.
Since then the waters have been muddied by talk of hard or soft Brexit but its all irrelevant, the bleating Remainers have been routed.
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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Having said all of that it is no longer germane, as parliament has now had the opportunity to vote on an Act to trigger Article 50 (in line not only with the recent Supreme Court ruling but also with long-standing constitutional practice)
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Guest 1849- Registered: 12 Sep 2016
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http://www.lawyersforbritain.org/referendum-binding.shtml
Bit long winded but clears things up.
If you're in any doubt ask David Cameron
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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Seems the Supreme Court did not agree with that otherwise they would have thrown the case out and overturned the High Court's ruling rather than heard the governments appeal...
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"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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- Posts: 23,940
Cameron = Blairite ,,,, david
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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The Referendum was advisory - but I do not know why everyone gets so worked up about it - the Parliamentary vote was only ever going to rubber stamp it. To be honest, it has been quite helpful as future Governments will know what the rules are before going down the referendum road in future.
The interesting bit will be the technical detail in the Report and Committee stages of the Bill, as this is where the amendments can come in. They won't be wrecking amendments, obviously, but they may push the Government further than it wants to go on issues like the single market.
What does annoy me, is this overwhelming talk of the will of the people - this implies some huge movement towards the exit door when actually, the difference between those voting in and out was only 1.2m people - that from a country of 60 odd million. A majority, yes - but not some enormous mandate that means scrutiny and due process should be abandoned.
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Ukip policy to guarantee the right to stay of European workers.
The British working class want them out .
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Keith Bibby wrote:Ukip policy to guarantee the right to stay of European workers.
The British working class want them out .
What a sweeping statement, it is
some of the working class. I will also add that phrase is out of date as that includes every single person who goes to work be they banker or baker.
What I want is a stop of all those who come here for what they can grab and send all left over money back to their own country and have no interest in integrating. I also want those who commit serious crime sent back to their country of origin to serve their sentence rather than languish in our jails at our expense.
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Bob Whysman
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Jan,
and....................
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Do nothing and nothing happens.
